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The lighting is really c**p at the place where I have my deposit box and I hadn't got my coronation set back from grading yet.
 
Modest by some standards here but not bad for about 2 and a half years. I do love my queens beast collection as that was a chore to collect without massively overspending.
 Not too far away from a kilo, I would be there by now but my recent forays in to proof have impacted on 'weight' as a priority.

The lighting is really c**p at the place where I have my deposit box and I hadn't got my coronation set back from grading yet.
 
Modest by some standards here but not bad for about 2 and a half years. I do love my queens beast collection as that was a chore to collect without massively overspending.
 Not too far away from a kilo, I would be there by now but my recent forays in to proof have impacted on 'weight' as a priority.

The lighting is really c**p at the place where I have my deposit box and I hadn't got my coronation set back from grading yet.
 
Modest by some standards here but not bad for about 2 and a half years. I do love my queens beast collection as that was a chore to collect without massively overspending.
 Not too far away from a kilo, I would be there by now but my recent forays in to proof have impacted on 'weight' as a priority.

The lighting is really c**p at the place where I have my deposit box and I hadn't got my coronation set back from grading yet.
 
Modest by some standards here but not bad for about 2 and a half years. I do love my queens beast collection as that was a chore to collect without massively overspending.
 Not too far away from a kilo, I would be there by now but my recent forays in to proof have impacted on 'weight' as a priority.

The lighting is really c**p at the place where I have my deposit box and I hadn't got my coronation set back from grading yet.
 
Modest by some standards here but not bad for about 2 and a half years. I do love my queens beast collection as that was a chore to collect without massively overspending.
 Not too far away from a kilo, I would be there by now but my recent forays in to proof have impacted on 'weight' as a priority.

The lighting is really c**p at the place where I have my deposit box and I hadn't got my coronation set back from grading yet.
 
Modest by some standards here but not bad for about 2 and a half years. I do love my queens beast collection as that was a chore to collect without massively overspending.
 Not too far away from a kilo, I would be there by now but my recent forays in to proof have impacted on 'weight' as a priority.

It's easy to dismiss but as the older generation of collector moves on who is going to replace them? I do think the Harry potter coins were a very smart move in that direction, there are a lot of adults buying them for themselves. My girlfriend has no interest in coins but she had to have them and has now started collecting the new zealand mint fantastic beasts.
 It may seem a bit vulgar or crass but they need new customers and that's how you get them, @GoldDiggerDave joked about gold pokemon  cards....i bet that if the mint were to actually do that, and do it properly they would sell like crazy. That actually ties in to your other point about they can't afford it, people are paying thousands, sometimes millions for those cards and you think they wouldn't buy a gold one as a flex? 
 What about other aspects of gamer culture? Look at the game streaming industry, it's creating a lot of rich young nerds who might greatly appreciate a video game character line, you could easily have done gaming icons like Mario, link, sonic etc. rather than myths and legends or another james bond tie in. 
 You know I'm starting to think I may be a marketing genius

Yep, I'm not a massive soverign collector but I've got a few and I've been here long enough to know what it means to people.
 I think that as the mint when you have dedicated collectors forums like this you would be crazy not to just come here, lurk and read, you would certainly save the time and expense of asking such stupid questions.
 I think what this shows is that the management there are out of touch, do not care about the institution they are in charge of, have no interest in numismatics and they are desperately looking to see what they can get away with using the one coin they have that they believe is a guaranteed money spinner.

Oh dear, did anybody else get the mints soverign survey today?
 Lots of questions about what 'innovations' you would like to see in future soverigns. Some of the suggestions were tags so you could see where they were made, security features, privy marks, whether you prefer rose gold, special monarch portraits and most bizarrely of all 12 sided coins.
 Somebody in charge there really needs to be fired. You have a coin with a legacy of hundreds of years and they think the best thing they can do is change it! I do like the very occasional special soverign but it's the rarity of these that make them special.
 Surely the whole point of a soverign is consistency and the fact its recognised worldwide. You start messing about with that and you ruin the legacy of what many would agree is the definitive coin of the royal mint. 
 All for a quick cash grab on the ever more pricey and ever less popular proof sets.
 

It's easy to dismiss but as the older generation of collector moves on who is going to replace them? I do think the Harry potter coins were a very smart move in that direction, there are a lot of adults buying them for themselves. My girlfriend has no interest in coins but she had to have them and has now started collecting the new zealand mint fantastic beasts.
 It may seem a bit vulgar or crass but they need new customers and that's how you get them, @GoldDiggerDave joked about gold pokemon  cards....i bet that if the mint were to actually do that, and do it properly they would sell like crazy. That actually ties in to your other point about they can't afford it, people are paying thousands, sometimes millions for those cards and you think they wouldn't buy a gold one as a flex? 
 What about other aspects of gamer culture? Look at the game streaming industry, it's creating a lot of rich young nerds who might greatly appreciate a video game character line, you could easily have done gaming icons like Mario, link, sonic etc. rather than myths and legends or another james bond tie in. 
 You know I'm starting to think I may be a marketing genius

These sold quick as can be... 

You know I'd never actually considered that. I always thought they were scum that preyed on the uninformed and, given where they do their marketing especially the elderly, but when you put it like that you may actually be on to something.
 My parents know I collect a bit of gold and recently they were telling me about an advert they had seem for super limited edition coronation coins and my first thought was it would be something from a company like that...I was so afraid they'd waste their money getting me one as a Xmas present.
 I needn't have worried, I got a bottle of shower gel they were probably given as a present by somebody else last year.

It's easy to dismiss but as the older generation of collector moves on who is going to replace them? I do think the Harry potter coins were a very smart move in that direction, there are a lot of adults buying them for themselves. My girlfriend has no interest in coins but she had to have them and has now started collecting the new zealand mint fantastic beasts.
 It may seem a bit vulgar or crass but they need new customers and that's how you get them, @GoldDiggerDave joked about gold pokemon  cards....i bet that if the mint were to actually do that, and do it properly they would sell like crazy. That actually ties in to your other point about they can't afford it, people are paying thousands, sometimes millions for those cards and you think they wouldn't buy a gold one as a flex? 
 What about other aspects of gamer culture? Look at the game streaming industry, it's creating a lot of rich young nerds who might greatly appreciate a video game character line, you could easily have done gaming icons like Mario, link, sonic etc. rather than myths and legends or another james bond tie in. 
 You know I'm starting to think I may be a marketing genius

You know I'd never actually considered that. I always thought they were scum that preyed on the uninformed and, given where they do their marketing especially the elderly, but when you put it like that you may actually be on to something.
 My parents know I collect a bit of gold and recently they were telling me about an advert they had seem for super limited edition coronation coins and my first thought was it would be something from a company like that...I was so afraid they'd waste their money getting me one as a Xmas present.
 I needn't have worried, I got a bottle of shower gel they were probably given as a present by somebody else last year.

My standing advice to people - never buy gold coins commemorating any event in WWI or WWII, any armed services such as the RAF, or any member of the royal family, jubilee or other related material.  Nobody actually collects that tat and the real value is about spot +5%.
Maybe 30 or 40 years ago there were folks still alive who remembered WWII and might actually like a Battle of Britain commemorative coin, but I suspect most people to which that sort of thing has any meaning or nostalgic connotations are either dead or not far off it.

Me too!…. but the 1oz silvers are pretty… and affordable…. but yer we are still just flushing thr money  … but better than a crypto “sh*t coin” in my experience  
 

Harrington & Byrne - pay attention.

I suspect the RM’s problem is that it is run by accountants with incentive plans to boost revenue and profits.
As opposed to a health mix of accountants and passionate individuals.  
All of the “new issues” and weak innovation speaks to this in my opinion.

 
 

Oh dear, did anybody else get the mints soverign survey today?
 Lots of questions about what 'innovations' you would like to see in future soverigns. Some of the suggestions were tags so you could see where they were made, security features, privy marks, whether you prefer rose gold, special monarch portraits and most bizarrely of all 12 sided coins.
 Somebody in charge there really needs to be fired. You have a coin with a legacy of hundreds of years and they think the best thing they can do is change it! I do like the very occasional special soverign but it's the rarity of these that make them special.
 Surely the whole point of a soverign is consistency and the fact its recognised worldwide. You start messing about with that and you ruin the legacy of what many would agree is the definitive coin of the royal mint. 
 All for a quick cash grab on the ever more pricey and ever less popular proof sets.
 

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OK so I will say something controversial....I don't hate the modern colour, I actually quite like it. I have no idea why they edit the pictures to make them look more pink because if they really were that colour it would be ridiculous. However I do agree they should be gold, use the rose tint for the other tat they sell as super limited edition, once in a lifetime proofs.
 
 What should be telling is that on here, among the people who buy them, with the exception of some dissenting voices prepared to accept the colour, the opinion is unanimous, leave it alone.

Oh yeah, they also want to know if people want to see a silver soverign, aside from the silver loving @GoldDiggerDave who would want that? 😉 

Also that 1994 looks as though it may have a story to it, chards have a mule for sale. They seem to believe that there may have been hundreds with the wrong obverse "possibly all" interesting to see yours is a normal one https://www.chards.co.uk/1994-bank-of-england-mule-two-pounds-gold-proof-coin/2016

OK so I will say something controversial....I don't hate the modern colour, I actually quite like it. I have no idea why they edit the pictures to make them look more pink because if they really were that colour it would be ridiculous. However I do agree they should be gold, use the rose tint for the other tat they sell as super limited edition, once in a lifetime proofs.
 
 What should be telling is that on here, among the people who buy them, with the exception of some dissenting voices prepared to accept the colour, the opinion is unanimous, leave it alone.

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