SoTD / BU sovereign 2024?

[Agaupl]

I’d assume a privy on this one.. may of course be wrong. VJ and VE had privys.  I’d guess DD80 or D80?

Both last year were distinctive enough not just matte and rim but the portrait as you said. 

[westminstrel]

16 hours ago, Agaupl said:

I’d assume a privy on this one.. may of course be wrong. VJ and VE had privys.  I’d guess DD80 or D80?

Both last year were distinctive enough not just matte and rim but the portrait as you said. 

If a coin needs a privy to mark its uniqueness, it’s almost a certainty it’s grasping.

That especially goes for the Sovereign.

The best SotD Sovereigns (imo) are the ones without any of that jazz.

[Olivard]

25 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

If a coin needs a privy to mark its uniqueness, it’s almost a certainty it’s grasping.

That especially goes for the Sovereign.

The best SotD Sovereigns (imo) are the ones without any of that jazz.

I think initially they were used to distinguish a second SOTD from earlier one in the same year. However in 2019/21 they became more common.

[JamesH]

I think the matte, plain edge sets them apart already without the need for additional privy marks

[GoldDiggerDave]

The privy marks are so small they don't really add anything for me.   The matt finish is nice what would blow the doors off with SOTD for the next few years if they did them as shield backs.  1000 per year and the only option for a shield back?  

 

[JamesH]

3 minutes ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

The privy marks are so small they don't really add anything for me.   The matt finish is nice what would blow the doors off with SOTD for the next few years if they did them as shield backs.  1000 per year and the only option for a shield back?  

 

Now that really would be special (except I’d then be fighting others for them)

[Wampum]

What has really got me with these, is that when they want to charge an additional £100 they can guarantee you an MS70 straight off the bat, however every other "pristine " Proof/BU, MS coin coming from them is a lottery.

How is it that they can send a full batch away to come back as all MS70's.

Surely this proves the point that they can if they want, they won't, so they don't.

There is also now the possibility that some come back MS69,68,67,66.....these are then cracked and boxed and sold at a reasonable price of £850. never to see a slab again.          

[Olivard]

Not sure if that's just one dealer or if it is a Royal Mint decision.

Don't think RM have done it like this before for a SOTD so that'll be a new departure. If it is then as you say it's worrying as it means the likelihood of getting a less than perfect coin in an 'ordinary' box is increased sharply.

15 minutes ago, Wampum said:

What has really got me with these, is that when they want to charge an additional £100 they can guarantee you an MS70 straight off the bat, however every other "pristine " Proof/BU, MS coin coming from them is a lottery.

How is it that they can send a full batch away to come back as all MS70's.

Surely this proves the point that they can if they want, they won't, so they don't.

There is also now the possibility that some come back MS69,68,67,66.....these are then cracked and boxed and sold at a reasonable price of £850. never to see a slab again.          

 

[Wampum]

14 hours ago, Olivard said:

Not sure if that's just one dealer or if it is a Royal Mint decision.

Don't think RM have done it like this before for a SOTD so that'll be a new departure. If it is then as you say it's worrying as it means the likelihood of getting a less than perfect coin in an 'ordinary' box is increased sharply.

 

That's true, have seen a few things offered up in slabs, from the mint, not sure if they have done it as an option before.

PCGS used to offer a service where you could send a quantity of the same coin to them, anything that was a 70 got slabbed anything that wasn't got returned un-slabbed, I also remember you could state the grade ie 69 and 70 or just the 70's.

That was years ago, out of touch now with the whole slabbing process, and don't know if NGC ever offered this service.        

[refero]

23 hours ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

The privy marks are so small they don't really add anything for me.   The matt finish is nice what would blow the doors off with SOTD for the next few years if they did them as shield backs.  1000 per year and the only option for a shield back?  

Next year marks the 200th anniversary from the first shield back sovereign. Now THAT is a very special occasion indeed to be properly celebrated, be that with a special proof, or (but my fear is AND) a special SOTD

[Olivard]

5 hours ago, refero said:

Next year marks the 200th anniversary from the first shield back sovereign. Now THAT is a very special occasion indeed to be properly celebrated, be that with a special proof, or (but my fear is AND) a special SOTD

You raise an interesting topic for speculation.

If they do one they're bound to do the SOTD if they know from the archives what date it was first struck.

But will they do any? Special date for sovereign collectors but not significant like 2017.

There again RM could see another one off reverse as a money spinner. 

We'll all have to watch the Privy Council news ...

[westminstrel]

They should have celebrated the 200th anniversary of the Half-sovereign with the shield design instead of the garter design imo.

Edit: In 2017 🙂

Edited May 19 by westminstrel

[refero]

true that. 

But you can't compare the number of potential full sovs buyers worldwide with the half-sov ones. 

[westminstrel]

[Zhorro]

The Queue-it page is up.

[Zhorro]

14 minutes ago, Zhorro said:

The Queue-it page is up.

It looks as if RM are launching all their D-Day products today.  I'm 1166 in the queue.

[westminstrel]

Yeah today’s the day… I’m 1800 something. 🙂

[Agaupl]

1973 in queue. But suprised. . I also never got an email from that mint. Weird. Maybe it was that review I was asked to give ?🤣

[Agaupl]

1000 sotd. 
bit higher than i was hoping for 😥

Edited May 20 by Agaupl

[Zhorro]

The mintage for the SOTD D-Day Sovereign is 1,000, which does seem high.

[westminstrel]

That moved very quickly. I’m in just for the fun of it.

The SotD has a rather high mintage imo. Not interested at £850.

[Agaupl]

I’m surprised they went that high tbh. 

[JamesH]

4 minutes ago, Agaupl said:

1000 sotd. 
bit higher than i was hoping for 😥

Yep, too high for me to pick up on release. Hopefully grab it further down the line. Enjoy your purchases 👍🏼

[Agaupl]

developed with the help of the IWM… I’m guessing that’s the pamphlet  

Edited May 20 by Agaupl

[westminstrel]

4 minutes ago, Agaupl said:

I’m surprised they went that high tbh. 

I was guessing 800 which would’ve been more reasonable and also tie in to the 80th anniversary. 🙂

By my recollection, 1000 is a “first” in terms of mintage for an SotD. 

It’s higher than many but also lower than many.