whuamai

Here are my LMU gold other than 20 francs
5 francs
1863 5  Napoleon III 
 
10 francs
1859 Napoleon III (without laurel)
1867 Napoleon III (with laurel)
1863 Italian 10 lire
1911 rooster
1946 Lichtenstein
 
40 francs
L' AN 12 Napoleon (pre- emperor)
 
I've just won this coin , but im not sure weather the seller could ship to my country due to the current situation.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Milan-obrenovich-IV-10-serbia-dinara-1882-v-vienna-/283821343177?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=IuQ69OYGFCRZYKWnouZTvWHptrs%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
 
 
 
 

Here is my entire collection
 
(from the left top)  
1.1811 Napoleon 
2.1815 Louis XVIII   type 1
3.1818 Louis XVIII   type 2
4.1843 Louis Philip
5.1867 Napoleon III later type
6.1875 Belgium Leopold II
7.1880 Hungary  
8.1896 Switzerland  type 1
9.1898 Angel 
10. 1904 Tunisia
11. 1902 Rooster
12. 1925 Switzerland type 2
 
I  started to collect all kinds of 19~ early 20th century  european gold coins since July 2018 , and the LMU coins(20 francs and other denominations) are my favorite.

I am glad to add my first 80 Lire coin to my collection. It has the weight equivalent weight of 4 x 20 Francs/Lire etc.
Unfortunately the 40 Lire is somehow thicker on the reverse, left side of the shield. The obverse is even and not thinner. Weight and dimensions are ok.
Anyone got a idea what the reason for this could be ? @Augur maybe ?
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1825 - 28k Mintage
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1827 - 150k Mintage
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815 - 220k Mintage
80 Lire Carlo Felice 1826 - 76k Mintage
 
 
 

I am glad to add my first 80 Lire coin to my collection. It has the weight equivalent weight of 4 x 20 Francs/Lire etc.
Unfortunately the 40 Lire is somehow thicker on the reverse, left side of the shield. The obverse is even and not thinner. Weight and dimensions are ok.
Anyone got a idea what the reason for this could be ? @Augur maybe ?
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1825 - 28k Mintage
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1827 - 150k Mintage
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815 - 220k Mintage
80 Lire Carlo Felice 1826 - 76k Mintage
 
 
 

I am glad to add my first 80 Lire coin to my collection. It has the weight equivalent weight of 4 x 20 Francs/Lire etc.
Unfortunately the 40 Lire is somehow thicker on the reverse, left side of the shield. The obverse is even and not thinner. Weight and dimensions are ok.
Anyone got a idea what the reason for this could be ? @Augur maybe ?
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1825 - 28k Mintage
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1827 - 150k Mintage
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815 - 220k Mintage
80 Lire Carlo Felice 1826 - 76k Mintage
 
 
 

I am glad to add my first 80 Lire coin to my collection. It has the weight equivalent weight of 4 x 20 Francs/Lire etc.
Unfortunately the 40 Lire is somehow thicker on the reverse, left side of the shield. The obverse is even and not thinner. Weight and dimensions are ok.
Anyone got a idea what the reason for this could be ? @Augur maybe ?
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1825 - 28k Mintage
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1827 - 150k Mintage
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815 - 220k Mintage
80 Lire Carlo Felice 1826 - 76k Mintage
 
 
 

I am glad to add my first 80 Lire coin to my collection. It has the weight equivalent weight of 4 x 20 Francs/Lire etc.
Unfortunately the 40 Lire is somehow thicker on the reverse, left side of the shield. The obverse is even and not thinner. Weight and dimensions are ok.
Anyone got a idea what the reason for this could be ? @Augur maybe ?
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1825 - 28k Mintage
20 Lire Carlo Felice 1827 - 150k Mintage
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815 - 220k Mintage
80 Lire Carlo Felice 1826 - 76k Mintage
 
 
 

10 Lire San Marino 1925 R
1 Year Type
Catalogue: KM#7
Mintage: 16000 from 20000 melted -> 4 000 pieces only!
The 20 Lire piece had a Mintage of 9334 and 7334 have been melted -> 2000 pieces only!
There are some coins "test coins"marked with "PROVA" and  "PROVA DI STAMPA" over the towers which are even more rare.
 
 

10 Lire San Marino 1925 R
1 Year Type
Catalogue: KM#7
Mintage: 16000 from 20000 melted -> 4 000 pieces only!
The 20 Lire piece had a Mintage of 9334 and 7334 have been melted -> 2000 pieces only!
There are some coins "test coins"marked with "PROVA" and  "PROVA DI STAMPA" over the towers which are even more rare.
 
 

10 Lire San Marino 1925 R
1 Year Type
Catalogue: KM#7
Mintage: 16000 from 20000 melted -> 4 000 pieces only!
The 20 Lire piece had a Mintage of 9334 and 7334 have been melted -> 2000 pieces only!
There are some coins "test coins"marked with "PROVA" and  "PROVA DI STAMPA" over the towers which are even more rare.
 
 

10 Lire San Marino 1925 R
1 Year Type
Catalogue: KM#7
Mintage: 16000 from 20000 melted -> 4 000 pieces only!
The 20 Lire piece had a Mintage of 9334 and 7334 have been melted -> 2000 pieces only!
There are some coins "test coins"marked with "PROVA" and  "PROVA DI STAMPA" over the towers which are even more rare.
 
 

10 Lire San Marino 1925 R
1 Year Type
Catalogue: KM#7
Mintage: 16000 from 20000 melted -> 4 000 pieces only!
The 20 Lire piece had a Mintage of 9334 and 7334 have been melted -> 2000 pieces only!
There are some coins "test coins"marked with "PROVA" and  "PROVA DI STAMPA" over the towers which are even more rare.
 
 

10 Lire San Marino 1925 R
1 Year Type
Catalogue: KM#7
Mintage: 16000 from 20000 melted -> 4 000 pieces only!
The 20 Lire piece had a Mintage of 9334 and 7334 have been melted -> 2000 pieces only!
There are some coins "test coins"marked with "PROVA" and  "PROVA DI STAMPA" over the towers which are even more rare.
 
 

Thats a very good price. I have had 3 of them, 2 I have sold at about 500-550 Euros, if the condition is good (this type should always be uncirculated), its very cheap 

Thats a very good price. I have had 3 of them, 2 I have sold at about 500-550 Euros, if the condition is good (this type should always be uncirculated), its very cheap 

Thats a very good price. I have had 3 of them, 2 I have sold at about 500-550 Euros, if the condition is good (this type should always be uncirculated), its very cheap 

@ilovesilverireallydo   that 20 Lire's are really rare and expensive. I think I got like around 60 different 20 franc size LMU coins, but that one is stil on my wishlist. Congratulations

Acquired this for a German friend 

@whuamai you have a lot to answer for! 😂!
Back in June, I was admiring your beautiful Skanderbegu thinking..I need to get one of those.
After 3 months of looking..I have managed to grab one (as seen on Today I received)

As this thread tends to lean on the side of educational, I asked my good friend (and spender of all my money) @augur what he knows about this coin..and this is what he said...
“Zog I, King of the Albanians (1895–1961), born Ahmet Muhtar Zogolli, taking the surname Zogu in 1922, was the leader of Albania from 1922 to 1939. He first served as Prime Minister of Albania (1922–1924), then as President (1925–1928), and finally as the first and only King (1928–1939).
This type was struck for Albania 1926-27 at the Rome mint to the standard of the French 20 francs d'or, even tho France had ceased striking such coins in 1914.
The Franga is an obsolete unit of currency, equal to 5 lek, used in the Albanian Republic and Albanian Kingdom under Zogu. Coins denominated in Franga were in use from 1926 until 1939.
Engraver: Giuseppe Romagnoli
George Castriot (1405–1468), known as Skanderbeg (from Turkish Iskender Bey, meaning “Lord Alexander”, or “Leader Alexander”), was an Albanian nobleman and military commander who led a rebellion against the Ottoman Empire in what is today Albania and North Macedonia.
A member of the noble Castriot family, he was sent to the Ottoman court as part of the Devshirme, where he was educated and entered the service of the Ottoman sultan for the next twenty years. He rose through the ranks, culminating in the appointment as sanjakbey (governor) of the Sanjak of Dibra in 1440. In 1443, he deserted the Ottomans during the Battle of Niš and became the ruler of Krujë, Svetigrad, and Modrič. In 1444, he was appointed the chief commander of the short-lived League of Lezhë that consolidated nobility throughout what is today Northern Albania. Thus, for the first time Albania was united under a single leader. Skanderbeg's rebellion was not a general uprising of Albanians, because he did not gain support in the Venetian-controlled north or in the Ottoman-controlled south. His followers included, apart from Albanians, also Slavs, Vlachs, and Greeks. Despite this military valor he was not able to do more than to hold his own possessions within the very small area in nowadays northern Albania where almost all of his victories against the Ottomans took place. Skanderbeg's military skills presented a major obstacle to Ottoman expansion, and he was considered by many in western Europe to be a model of Christian resistance against Muslims. For 25 years, from 1443 to 1468, Skanderbeg's 10,000 man army marched through Ottoman territory winning against consistently larger and better supplied Ottoman forces, for which he was admired.
Skanderbeg always signed himself in Latin: Dominus Albaniae ("Lord of Albania"). In 1460–61, he participated in Italy's civil wars in support of Ferdinand I of Naples. In 1463, he became the chief commander of the crusading forces of Pope Pius II, but the Pope died while the armies were still gathering. Together with Venetians he fought against the Ottomans during the Ottoman–Venetian War (1463–1479) until his death in January 1468. He ranks high in that military history, as the most persistent opponent of the Ottoman Empire in its heyday who was also ever-victorious.
Depicts the Lion of Saint Mark dividing value, country name above, mintmark and date below.
The Reverse..
The Lion of Saint Mark, representing the evangelist St Mark, pictured in the form of a winged lion holding a Bible, is the symbol of the city of Venice and formerly of the Venetian Republic.
The Venetian lion appears in two distinct forms. One is as a winged animal resting on water, to symbolise dominance over the seas, holding St. Mark’s Gospel under a front paw. The other form is known as the lion “in moleca”, in the form of a crab. Here the lion is depicted full-faced with its wings circled around the head resembling the claws of a crustacean. It is emerging from water, so that the lion “in moleca” is associated with the lagoon and the city, whereas the standing winged lion is thought to be more associated with Venetian territory around the Mediterran.
By the way..When I said I had to get one...I lied...I had to get two...a fine example of the1927 has already been sourced! Pictures to follow in a few weeks!

I wonder if someby at La Poste went through the effort to sum up those stamps since a lot are still in French Francs and not in Euros...

Anyway, this collage contained an overstrike overload 20 Lire, the 1877. This one is not listed in numista ( @gustavus only resource I would know of) and I can blame @whuamai who brought this coin to my attention:


 
double 77 on the obverse 

and double L on the reverse 

Excellent Fellow that @whuamai  - its clearly a serious DOSe of overstrike!!
nice also to see some else likes using numista!

1866 Napoleon III 20 Francs and its plethora of Roman symbology 

My first circulation 20 Swiss Franc (bought at 30% below spot!)

Today my bars have seen a bit of light after being in the dark for quite a while.