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1 hour ago, Melon said:

The smart money might be on buying an original Gothic Crown then. If they do release that next, it could create interest in the original and push the price up. 

There wasn’t a gold version gothic, I think we could be getting into the gimmick versions after this one. There was however a gold 1935 rocking horse crown, I might put my money on one of those 😏

9 hours ago, Kman said:

Another victim of Numistackers hyping 😛 

Only when the bubble goes pop 😉 In the meantime, people should be thinking of profits

7 minutes ago, Paul said:

This is what gives me an urge to just hold on and hope for the best.  Still no shortage of cash in the world. 225 isnt really a big mintage at all.  

Just what made the orignal go from £20k to £200k in 10-15 years and now to £500k+ this past week?

With fiat debt tokens of paper money being printed into oblivion year on year, the uber rich will park their wealth into things that cannot be created out of thin air like fine art, classic cars, high end property, fixed supply rare gold coins

I remeber I was at a Sothebys rock pop memorablia London in mid-2000s and Beatles handwritten lyrics came up, bids went crackers for like over just over £100k, well above estimate guide, just a couple years later, the same lyrics sold in USA in NYC similar sales for $1.2m.  A million dollars is nothing to a hedgefund manager who ants to own what noone else has, heck they might not even be a Beatles fan! To the savvy person who paid £100k got x10 their cash

 

I watched Numistackers video on the 1834 Sixpence, so when we talk about rise and fall I looked over the Heritage site and found another 1834 sixpence sold in 2010 in PF66 for $3500 hammer, 1 year later the exact same coin sold for $1000 less, the same goes for any coin we own, prices rise and prices fall, same with stocks and shares, so everything is risk, it's knowing when to take your profits and be happy is the most satisfying part, again, I equate this to crypto, lots of people were hodling thinking bitcoin and their alt coins were just going to keep on going, then it dumped from $20k to $2800 in a year, so hodling is dangerous as well as selling at the wrong time, I know what I'd be doing if it was my coin right now.

18 minutes ago, goldmember44 said:

Thing is...the very low mintage comes into play here....it really looks like the strong collector demand is outstripping the supply, and hence we have this appreciation situation. Every serious gold coin collector of these type of coins would like to own one, if they are wealthy enough. And there's a fair amount of such wealthy collectors around..

But wealthy collectors don't generally collect modern restrikes, they buy the originals

26 minutes ago, Elements said:

Gibralter, Alderney, Liberia a few una and the lion replicas have been released over the years. I wouldn’t put it past the RM to do an Una SOTD or something similar like the seem to be doing with the rest of the moderns and dilute the collectibility.  

Exactly my thoughts as well. If they see a winner they then dilute with that sort of stuff, the 2017 200th anniversary Sov springs to mind

1 hour ago, Paul said:

https://www.ngccoin.com/census/world/great-britain-decimal-1968-to-date/sc-350/g200pd/varieties/540862/

x15 have made it to NGC for grading thus far.  Have not seen one of them for sale as yet 

 Coin cabinet sale

9 hours ago, ShaolinStacker said:

Finally got my 2oz Gold Una. Wanted to see what you guys would do? 

1- Sell in OMP take the $25k and run

2- Grade with NGC take the $30+k and run

3- Grade with NGC and put it in the safe for 30 years( In my early 30s now)

Just wanted to see what the wisdom of the forum thinks... Thanks

Take the money, I equate this coin to crypto, nothing keeps on rising like people thought bitcoin would and it will drop eventually. You could wait till the Coin cabinet coin has been through the block and see what price it brings, but think about how many ounces it could add to a stack.

9 hours ago, Numistacker said:

Please can nobody name the dealer here in the forum. It is absolutely wrong and an invasion of his privacy and it may even place him in danger.

Mod please can you remove his name urgently from any posts 

Wrong and invasion of privacy? How so? It’s £38k for 2 coins, yet the information that he paid the highest price ever for an original Una is already out there and freely available, you should maybe have a word with NGC and see what they say. Perhaps it’s more to do with eventual profit?

13 minutes ago, AuricGoldfinger said:

I think it’s just because it’s direct from the royal mint. Making it much more widely collectable and desirable 

The die of UNA seems to have had quite a run this year, strange why the RM would be the last to use it. The RM struck Alderney coins up to 2017.

Another Una that was done last year, so I wonder why people didn't go ape for these, it also seems strange that the RM are having difficulties minting them, yet other mints don't seem to be having that problem. Here is how its described.

From a tiny mintage of just 400 pieces struck to respect the original 1839 version, this piece is struck from the original die created in 1839. Modern technology allowed the mint to remove the blemish from the die, so this coin has all of the details of the original with an even sharper appearance. Issued to commemorate the 180th anniversary of the creation of the original Una (1839) and the 200th anniversary of Queen Victoria's birth.

Notice how they've done 2 anniversaries on one coin so that they don't milk the collector 🥳

4 hours ago, westminstrel said:

You do realize this would be impossible right? Because for a coin to be legal tender the reigning monarch’s effigy has to be on the obverse.

So as cool as this looks, it is probably wishful thinking.

I do realise that, as the monarch today is ER II, what I was meaning was it could be the gothic crown design, but its mere speculation

3 hours ago, Murph said:

Would they use a Kuchler design given he wasn't directly working for the Royal Mint?

He worked for Soho

This is how I think the next one will look, although, how many "great designers" have the RM had? Pistrucci, Wyon and? If they do a Pistrucci design it would water down the already watered down 2017 200th Anniversary Sov

On 23/11/2019 at 02:51, westminstrel said:

Actually, what is with 2020 and the revival of this design by both the Royal Mint and the East India Company? 

The design was re-introduced 31 years previously in 1989, this is a Sov of Gibraltar

8 hours ago, Paul said:

Yup - nice to see some benchmarks sales of roughly gauging out what the market sees the value of this coin at 

http://www.watchcount.com/mw2.php?bkw=gold+una+lion&bcat=0&bcts=&sfsb=Show+Me!&csbin=auc&bslr=&bnp=&bxp=#serp

x144 watches now on Gold Una on auction ending later today, still at £15,950 GBP since last update

It ends 10.10pm tonight GMT, if anyone will be watching the last few mins bidding to see where it ends

 

I see there's quite some hype surrounding this gold 2oz. So far I have only heard of xxxx price sale, but no confirmation/proof by anyone. When checking through eBay sold items that Londoncoincompany had sold one at £10k but took that with a pinch of salt considering they are ludicrous at the best of times, then a week or so later I checked again and it wasn't in the sold listings. 

I was watching a numistacker video last week (he's made quite a few on this coin for some reason) could have been 2 weeks ago where he mentioned a sold figure of 10k but again there was no evidence of that, if these have sold in these price brackets, and people know, why are they so shy to link them? 

Today Numi did another video mentioning one at £15k, (the eBay one mentioned in this thread) but given the fact that regal is on here and also numistacker and they clearly know each other, but no mention from numi that it was an acquaintance from TSF, the possibility of it to do better could have been there.

I'm sitting on the fence right now that the Gold Una is actually selling for these crazy prices unless someone has a link to actual sales (eBay with feedback) or elsewhere. I think there could be eBay bidders doing some fun and games due to the prices, making bids and not paying, that's what I think might have happened to the one from Londoncoins

So does anyone have an actual link to a genuine sale at 5 figures?