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Just another bullion sov, but picked up at a great price. Always nice to pick up another for the pot👍

Just another bullion sov, but picked up at a great price. Always nice to pick up another for the pot👍

Just another bullion sov, but picked up at a great price. Always nice to pick up another for the pot👍

Sock?  Wait until he discovers apple pie!
 
 
 

A tube of 1/4oz Brits for me today, ordered from RM Thursday evening so pretty quick for them
These are the QEII ones and the tube of 20 from RM was actually cheaper than the tube of 19 KCIII's from Atkinsons
Not to everyone's taste because of the premium but at £172 they were the cheapest I had seen them for a while

Absolute belting start to collecting. 👍👍👍

My first ever gold coin!
 

3 more 2onzas for my 2oz libertad collection.
2017 2oz bu. 2018 2oz proof and 2020 2oz reverse proof.
@silverfan
A huge thank you for sending them to me so quickly and in bomb proof packaging. Anybody looking for libertads he is the man 👆

Great start to the year mate!

Received a group of NGC graded coins from @GoldDiggerDave , thanks mate for sourcing and grading these. Great results!!
A lot of Charles III coins including a couple the 2023 Coronation set (missing the £2 Coronation which is with NGC), the Coronation £5 BU (450 mintage) and 2022 Memorial £5 BU (1,000 mintage).
Also the very lovely Coronation silver crown.

I would say spend time visiting well established coin fairs, handle the coins, and ask the dealers questions- importantly, find an era/ period/ monarch you’re interested in and do some research.  Also join some Facebook groups where you’ll pick up some good information.
There’s some fabulous books available that’ll give you lots of reading/ overview, I would recommend this Spink book- it won’t break the bank either, there is also a Decimal volume.
Spink, Coins of England Pre- Decimal Issues, is in my opinion, a must have- this will provide you a good overview of each period from Celtic Coinage up until Elizabeth II Pre- Decimal.  The 2024 Edition will be released soon.

Once you find a period you’re interested in- then get geeky!


 

My Gold (and Silver) Sixpence vanity project continues with the 2022 Elizabeth II & 2023 Charles III 22ct Gold issues.  
Beautiful John Bergdahl designs- these to follow on from the 2021 (the inaugural Gold) issues in both 22 & 24ct Gold.  Thanks again to @SilverMike for parting with the 2021’s a while back and introducing me to these sweet little Gold coins.




 

***Only my thoughts, not investment advice***
I'll try and keep this brief, but also try and put perspective to the question you ask by taking a deep dive into the 2017 Pistrucci 200 year Anniversary Proof Sovereign performance since release, and also comparing the premiums above spot on release day of the three 'Special' Sovereign releases subsequent to the 2017.
I think what's interesting and significant about the 2017 release in comparison to the two 2022 releases- The Platinum Jubilee and The Memorial as well as the 2023 Coronation issue was that the premiums the Royal Mint charged have remained fairly static, in fact, they 'slipped up' somewhat with the Platinum Jubilee release! they could have charged more to keep up their consistent premium markup!  
I'm pretty sure that investing in a 2017 Sovereign was a much more difficult ask, as compared to the 2022 Platinum Jubilee issue.  
I would say buyer fatigue (two Sovereign issues in 2022 followed quickly by the 2023 Coronation Issue) alongside a) the Royal Mint Price hikes & b) the market sentiment (cost of living hikes, interest rate hikes etc.etc) have affected current prices of the Memorial/ Coronation Sovereign.
Below exemplifies/compares the premiums over Gold Price of the 'special' Sovereigns:
The 2017 Elizabeth II Pistrucci 200th Anniversary Sovereign issue cost on release was: £480 (Gold Price was around the £1040/ oz),  making 96% premium over Gold Price
The 2022 Elizabeth II Platinum Jubilee Sovereign issue cost on release was:  £595 (Gold price was £1384/oz), only an 80% premium over Gold Price
The 2022 Charles III, Elizabeth II Memorial Sovereign issue cost on release was: £695 (Gold Price was £1497/oz), Making 97% premium over Gold Price.
The 2023 Charles III Coronation Sovereign cost on release was: £725 (Gold Price was £1496), making a 106% premium over Gold Price.
 
So, if we look at the performance of the 2017 Pistrucci Sovereign in more detail: 
I stand corrected, but the issue prices for the 2017 Pistrucci Sovereign were as follows (to the best of my knowledge), but remember, Spot Price was only £1040/oz and released late October 2016:
Quarter: £150
Half: £250
Sovereign: £480
Piedfort: £800 
SOTD: £500 
5 Sovereign Bu: £1785
3 Coin Set- (Sov to Quarter): £750
Premium 3 Coin Set- (2 Sov- Half):  £1450 
5 Coin set: £3295- (5 Sov- Quarter) £3295
There were no 4 coin (2 Sov to Quarter) Sets issued. 
https://agaunews.com/2017-sovereign-recreates-200yr-old-pistrucci-original/  
 
My observations of the market since the 2017 release are as follows
Following initial inertia on release of around a 15% price increase, there was a 'drop' in prices in late 2017- which saw the coins reset back to around release price for the Individual issues:  the Quarter were offered at around £150 and the Half's £250- £275 and the Sovereign £500- £525 sold as raw coins.  
It then slowly increased at the turn of 2018, over and above release price by a minimum of 10% and more prevalent at 20% over the release price raw,  but then we saw the initial steady rise from spring 2020 and then the meteoric rise from the turn of 2021.  The Sovereign now around £850 raw (£1050 top grade) 
The Piedfort (I believe the 2017 was the first Piedfort issue) was not too well received and the prices were dormant over release price until spring 2020- 2021 have seen these rapidly rise in price to around £1200 (£1500 graded today).  
I do know that I bought a 5 Pound 2017 Bu in March 2020 for £10 less than release price! and in keeping with the above, prices have risen sharply since to over £3k top grade. 
The 2017 3 coin raw (Sov through to Quarter) set was available on the secondary market between £800 and £900 up until spring 2020 however, the Premium 3 coin (2 Sovereign to Half 1400 mintage) set and particularly the 5 Coin set, 950 mintage have always kept huge premiums and then came the steady re-rate for these sets from 2020 onwards- and todays prices, as we know are extremely high the 5 coin set in top grade around £10k when available.
 
To conclude, I don't think the enthusiasm for the Sovereign, particularly 'Special' Sovereigns will disappear, it will always be loved and some releases will always be more prized and cherished over another.  You asked will the Memorial/ Coronation Sovereign gain value in years to come above other Proof Sovereigns?  
Well, nothing is set in stone, but the special releases all appear to be doing well, like @Orpster suspects, I also think that over time, they will appreciate somewhat, of course mintage and desirability will effect by how much they might increase- but there's never going to be a better time to buy them as @Chrisplym  @Clockpuncher & @tpcob303point out.  
Personally, I think the Platinum Jubilee will be the biggest winner in the mid term and perform well in the longer- likely a similar trajectory as the 2017 Pistrucci.   I'm not certain about the Memorial short to mid term but long term, its a winner, its a fantastic design.  
However, I think the biggest winner long term will be the Coronation Sovereign- particularly the higher denominations- over its 200 year history Coronation Sovereigns always do extremely well. 
 
 
 

Auction win. A nice 2020 Elizabeth II Sovereign Proof Set.

 

1989 3 set - sold - works out as 1375, 1375, 450, cheapest I can see anywhere.
2016 half - sold
2017 full proof - sold
2017 full SOTD plains edge, very rare only 1817 mintage - sold
need cash before Xmas so can’t grade these… make me offer on multiples please, they need to go.
thanks!

So here we have a partial date run. This is the 3rd run I was putting together but have decided to concentrate on key date libertads 
Dates are as follows 
82, 84, 85, 86
90, 91, 92, 94, 95, 97 
01, 09 x2, 10 x2, 11, 13, 15, 17, 20, 22, 23 
I am selling as a bundle for a very reasonable £770 posted special delivery 
Check comps on alot of these as they are well over £40/50 on some dates. These work out at an average of £35 posted 
These are bullion and some of the older coins have sone toning As to be expected.
PPFF or BT 

A couple of RMS Douro Shipwreck sovereigns
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thank you @ilovesilverireallydo for this wonderful Platinum Jubilee Piedfort Sovereign in fabulous condition 😃
It was orphaned from its presentation case- I was lucky enough to find a case at a well known auction site 👍 

Thanks to @GoldDiggerDave for sorting this👍 not a great fan of slabbed coins, but at least the card won’t get tatty!
Gem proof..? Poor coin has been through a right trial! Still, only another 150 out there and those are in pretty expensive sets🤔😮

Spink (2023) ‘Coins of England & The United Kingdom, Decimal Issues’ page 177 outlines all the SOTD Sovereigns- including the issue number/ actual sales. 
 
Also, the Royal Mint publishes recent Commemorative Coin sales 2004 through 2019- you can find the information here:
https://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/mintage-figures/

2022 Platinum Jubilee of Her Majesty The Queen Celebration Silver Proof 10 Coin Set
REDUCED FROM £325 TO £279 POSTED 
Beautifully presented celebratory Silver Set featuring the Platinum Jubilee Silver Proof issues with the extremely limited Jody Clark Obverse, as well as the 2022 Definitive coin issues.
Limited to only 700 Proof Sets.






 

I’ll take the 1871s if still available??👍

Back from holiday to open this lovely lady.
Keeps the date run up to date

Listing this on behalf of my Nephew, he has a large car repair bill to pay so reluctantly has decided to part with his 2022 Memorial proof sovereign.
Looks an absolutely beautiful coin. Would buy it my self if I didn't already have a few.
£565 plus postage of your choice.
Any other questions or pictures required please ask.
 

A stunning TSF designed and branded 1g silver bar from @BackyardBullion big thanks to @ChrisSilverfor all the hard work for keeping this forum running and putting up with some of our antics!