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I found this news page which shows somebody handling the finished article. I think it looks fantastic 😃 https://www.enfieldindependent.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19717134.royal-mint-celebrate-queens-platinum-jubilee-new-coin-2022---buy/

I think @ilovesilverireallydo is a fan of, and is knowledgeable about IOM coins

You're right Steve. I admit being guilty of feeding the Troll- a hiding to nothing. But fortunately, I will learn from my mistake.

Thanks for the applause....The pleasure is all mine Troll?

Yes, and a bigger friend of thoughtful commentary and opinion

Oh please, stop being such a nobber And stop using this as a defence for your absolute drivel- simply think or count to 10 or 50 or a figure of your choosing and then make a considered commentary that adds value to a thread rather than stymieing debate.

Then I won't apologise for my view that your analysis and conclusions on the subject of Grading were ill thought out and poorly considered. As already stated in this thread by numerous commentators, there are a plethora of reasons why people grade coins. @jultorsk made an excellent point of choosing to buy a pre-graded Wreath Coin- it provides confidence when putting down hundreds/ thousands of pounds of your hard earned cash on a coin. Greed isn't the first thing that springs to my mind when I see someone having graded a coin.

If you are going to quote me @CollectorNo1 then why not contextualise my quote? Of course you are entitled to your opinions- and since you ask, here's my view- you have stated or implied that you have some evidence that you know someone on the inside of a grading company that is aware of a fraud- you posted the allegation of what sounds like a fraud going on and posted it like you know that its a fact. If it is a fact, then I personally think you should report it.

If you have this type of information/evidence of a fraud, then you would be doing the whole coin collecting community a favour by reporting it.

If this is the case and there are so many nightmare stories, then I’m sure the authorities would want to know that a fraud exists.

Received some excellent Grading results today from NGC. A big thank you to @SilverMike for helping me appraise the older Sovereigns and crucially, encouraging me to submit them for grading, despite my heavy resistance to separate them from the sets they came from. My new favourite Sovereign in my collection is this 1911 Proof- PF64 Ultra Cameo 🤩- including this one, only 9 Graded UC by NGC and only 4 Graded DCAM by PCGS 😲 Here's a 'before' photo of the 1911 Proof Sovereign And After: The other results are pleasing too, the 1911's baby brother and the 1937 George VI Sovereign particularly 🤩

Nice to hear from you @Abyss- its been a long time...lovely coins from a great Forum member 😁

In the long run, If the design is well received it’ll do well. On release It’ll depend on the mintage/ popularity- but like @sovereignsteve says, the mintages of these Sovereign Special Reverses have been reasonably high in the past, 2012 excepted. If you take the 2017 issue, the demand was high, then plateaued and then decreased somewhat before gathering momentum of late. My reckoning is that if it’s a 10k+ mintage then there’ll be plenty to go around, and a good chance of paying less or similar price for a top grade example in the first 12 to 18 months after release- but this is only my speculative view.

Without question, I would like to own a five coin set, it’s a very special release, but if the issue of this set is way under 1,000 like it has been for the last decade, then this hot release might be difficult to secure. If I don’t manage to secure the 5 coin set than I will likely go for the individual Sovereign and Half Sovereign, and mintage dependent, I might well wait for them and buy from the secondary market.

I don’t think the RM will release mintage figures in advance. Traditionally they will release individually, the Sovereign and Half Sovereign as well as the pesky Quarter. And if they replicate recent years there will be SOTD issues and a Bu 5 Sovereign Piece. In terms of sets- in my opinion, the RM should have never started to strike a Quarter Sovereign and stuck to the trusty old 4 Coin and 3 coin sets- 5 Sov to Half and 2 Sov to Half. I guess however, that nuisance Quarter Sovereign opened up sales opportunities. Since 2009 and its inception they have flitted about and deviated several times when issuing Sets- for example- 2010, 2011 2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015 they issued 4 different sets (odd they didn’t start this from 2009- first year 1/4): The four sets were: 5 Sov to 1/4 2 Sov to 1/4 2 Sov to 1/2 Sov to 1/4 In 2016 & 2017 they moved back to the ‘new normal’ 3 set issues: 5 Sov to 1/4 2 Sov to Half Sov to 1/4 Then 2018 onwards it’s back to issuing 4 sets! I guess we won't know if its going to be a 4 or a 3 coin set issues until the release day.

This reminds me of a classic comedy sketch

Melon will know what his motivation is but as others have said, perhaps CGT or increase weight? Start a collection of Sovereigns?

😂 It would be a hassle. I think overall you might as well stick with the Maples and then add Sovereigns going forward.

I think this is your best option 😃

Lovely and very rare coin received today- a lucky early and what turned out to be a very much overlooked Sunday morning eBay auction win 😃 Orphaned from an extremely rare 1923 Proof South Africa Set- a lovely chocolate coloured Bronze Penny, nicely toned, a nice Plain edge and just about as struck. A Wonderful coin 👍

Lovely Set Mick 👍

🏴‍☠️👍 And a lucky eBay auction win- the postage was as much as the Cabinet 😃

A nice 2nd Coin Cabinet arrival that solves a storage/ display problem. The Cabinet has a drawer for coin paraphernalia, the remainder of the them fitted out with Inserts that accept Crowns, which was its intended purpose. As a nice bonus, the drawers are also deep enough to hold 10 Slabs per drawer 😃 and my Peter Nichols Cabinet with my historic Silver sits nicely up on top 👍

Thanks

Whats does the Reverse look like?