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Graded coins received back from PCGS. Very pleased. 😊 But, see if you can spot the mistake!

I read about this a number of years ago, "I Promise to Pay The Bearer ..." on really old bank notes was written in proper case text which is the correct legal way to write the legal document. Today, those words on our notes are all in uppercase letters, which means it can't be formed as part of the legal document because it doesn't mean anything. The notes have margins on the left and right sides of the notes and anything in the left or right sides of the margins are not deemed to be part of the document... if you look at a £20 note today, the "£20" is in the left margin and a "20" without the "£" sign is on the document. So, what we PROMISE to pay is meaningless and to pay "20" of something - it doesn't stipulate what it is, all we know is that it's 20 of something. On a positive note, I like the artwork on the notes... now then, where's my monopoly board and money! 😄

If Sovereigns with King Charles III are now less rose gold it will all make more sense to me. Historically gold Sovereigns have pretty much been 22 / 24 parts gold and that tradition will probably continue. - Rose gold for the Queen. - Gold gold for the King. And makes it easier to identify the monarch on your Sovereigns just by the colour. Very clever idea by the RM if this turns out to be true and really like the concept.

Graded coins aren't everyone's 'cup of tea' so to speak. I grade collectable coins only. I don't grade bullion, unless it was a really old coin worth grading and like @AndrewSL76 I grade with PCGS and use their reports. They're really useful to compare and use as a guide to value a coin. Grading collectable coins offers another dimension to collecting, making a coin more rare... For example, if there was a collectable coin with a maximum mintage of 1,000 and overtime 100 coins did not sell and were melted down. Only 100 coins were graded at their highest grade, 200 coins have grades 1 below the highest grade and the other 600 coins were not graded. Official maximum mintage figures are then updated from 1,000 to 900. 100 / 300 graded coins are graded top grade (may not be a 70 as it depends on the age of the coin). 200 / 300 graded coins are now looking more rare / more collectable compared to 1 coin out of the original 1,000 and to me, this is where the new dimension comes in when grading. The other 600 coins have not been verified through a professional grading company and aren't included in the 'scarcity' figures, so to speak. I would never buy from any pressured sales person and only buy what you like and feel comfortable with.

I noticed the colour change in the pictures this morning - maybe less copper and more silver in the composition? I'll see what comes through the post and compare it to the 95th birthday sovereign. I hope it's less rose gold and more gold gold! Absolutely love Jody Clark's detailed design on the reverse, so won't be too disappointed if it is the usual rose gold colour... there's still gold in them there hills (coins!) 😄

Wish I had the goonies to run my own business. Very brave. Good luck with it all. Best wishes Golden G.

Dare I say... absolutely nothing!! And I'm absolutely gutted to miss the platinum jubilee gold coin!! Bad timing I suppose. Hopefully by next year, I can say that I've got a s*xy new piece of fine looking, mesmerising, tantalising, curves in the right places, coin of some kind. Bring on the William Wyon George and the Dragon.... please RM!!! Let all the stars and planets align, so I can satisfy my desires!

I think we've all fallen for Mr Chard, what a legend!

Would be great to come along and put TSF names to faces but unfortunately can't make this one. Have a beer for me and a good old gander at what will be on display!! 😁

Very sad 😔 Did you send it direct to NGC in America for grading or a third party, or did you buy it already in that condition?

It all depends on what you want out of it and that can change over time. I love the finish on proof coins, and along with certain designs and the rarity of them, it makes them even more attractive. Proof all the way for me, that I want to keep and never let go! 😁

I don't believe PCGS have UK agents. I send mine direct to PCGS. Not sent any for quite sometime though.

This video is about gold, which I posted before, but it's funny to watch it again! 😁

Good luck 👍

I personally send proof coins for grading. I have bullion grade coins, and wouldn't bother grading those, as they aren't unique enough and collectable etc. and I see those coins as real 'money' but out of the system / the bank and more of an investment which follows the gold spot price. Now there are matt finishes and brilliant uncirculated coins that would fall under the 'Mint State' grade. Would I grade those? If there is a relatively limited number of them in a particular finish, then possibly yes. If there is an unlimited number of them, then I wouldn't bother. EDIT: you're probably best to consider the age of the coins too when deciding to grade. All proof finishes for me are a yes to grade and then more consideration needed if it is anything else.

Anyone can become rich. It depends on your definition and how you see it. And anyone can give to the poor and it doesn't have to be money, it can be time, or doing something thoughtful, which members of TSF are! ☺️ Now TSF members, please send me your excess gold and silver! Thank you all kindly in advance. 😁

No, I doubt it. Only reacting in one place on the edge of the coin, plus there has been instances of hair cuttings of some nature and remnants of an egg sandwich apparently. Royal Mint or NGC / PCGS would definitely not let that happen - way too much risk to their reputation. Must be someone (3rd party) who likes egg sandwiches 🤷

I graded my 3 graces with PCGS and was fine when I looked at it a few months ago. I'll have to have another look when all 4 of us meet again. Wouldn't expect any burn markings.

Right, so a burn mark on a first releases 3 graces coin. Suggests that it was happening way back then! 😲

Yeah good idea. You'd find it very difficult to find a buyer and sell on with burn 🔥 marks. Unless the market really turned around and was incredibly bullish on proof coins and then you'd have a chance.

Wouldn't want to try it with my 3 graces proof silver coin! Yikes!!! Or would I... 🤔 😂

Lovely coins! 😍 How does the price compare to the RM? Is it worth the shipping?

Now that sounds like an experiment! 😂 Imagine if you ended up with a decent amount of toning in a short space of time... 😁