Clockpuncher

2001 is a lovely design - my favourite! The older bullion Brits do command a bit of a premium - I sold one of the 2001 bullion brits from my collection a week or two back on here for £32. The proofs go for a bit more, maybe £85-90 area. Ebay is the wild west - just depends on how much selling risk you want to take! if you can get £30 -32 each for them on here than I think its a fair price and you're not having to pay Ebay fees either.

Afraid they will see nothing wrong with this - its a bullion product and they come flying off a machine in to a hopper at the rate of hundreds an hour. Quality is a bit rubbish on it but the Royal Mint's view will be that you go what you paid for - 2 sovs worth of gold. It has virtually no nuimismatic value - just stick in in the stack and see it as weight.

If this were my coin, I would probably give this a go and see how conservation does. The line between 69 and 70 is ridiculously fine (and very subjective).

@JeremyzedI wouldn't be too worried about the rim or the bit just above the M. The bit next to the lion looks a bit more prominent but it is impossible to tell what the issue is from he pic - if it is a crater on the surface of the coin it could reduce eye appeal and potentially knock you down a grade but its all super subjective at NGC. Is the imperfection very apparent to the naked eye? Do remember that PF69 if essentially judged as no imperfections visible to the naked eye, and PF70 is only at 5x magnification whereas these look a lot more zoomed in that that.

I don’t tend to grade many silver coins so not much experience of how effective NGC conservation is for them. Silver does to to have a lot more issues too around toning and milk spotting.

That looks like some sort of residue on the mirror surface which Conservation may be able to assist with. It will also improve the eye appeal as the surface looks a bit dusty too. Nothing is guaranteed though - if you're not happy then send it back to the mint, but I would personally gamble on NCS with that one.

Missing frosting on the 2? Ive had a few issues with mine as well. Sent it back Sadly a poor quality one for me - scratches on reverse and large chunks of missing frosting on neck and rim. Back it goes!

Welcome! Yes, the membership is worth it - maybe try the silver for 1 month and see how it goes for you.The best trade deals will go in minutes and are not visible to non premium members until a few days post listing. Safety is down to you - there is a reputation system and, if you stick to established members with a track record, you're likely to be safe but make sure you do your own due diligence. Take a bit of time to research and have a think before piling in - silver comes at a high premium at the moment and new silver incurs VAT so its very easy to end up 20% down on day one without even trying too hard! Gold, especially bullion gold bought at a sensible premium is (in my view) a far safer place to start whilst you find your feet - maybe half or full sovereigns?

Dispatch from the mint on 17th-19th was what I was told

Pretty much, they were about 12-13k as I remember so a chunky mark up on eBay there! Hopefully not too many sell as the mint is already doing so many sizes and styles for each coin that the market already seems to be choking on the volume!

They were a special set marketed to the Platinum / Platinum+ mint marque members - tiny mintage and I don't think the plan is for them to become a regular fixture, just a curiosity (and an expensive one at that) but certainly will be a rarity for this rather historic year. Note they are pattern proofs so not technically legal tender (is my understanding anyway).

That auction isn't really comparable - it was all weird die trials so everything is a one-off and bidding was astronomical on some coins. You can see every coin is hall marked as they are not officially 'coins' - just curious rarities

Yes, 50k for platinum and 100k for platinum+ I think!

This pics below are my 2014 PF70 - I just thought it might be useful for you to compare as a baseline and see if it shares any similarities with the 'missing die spots' on the one you graded.

Did you opt for conservation as well? I’d be tempted to (ultra carefully) remove from the slab and resubmit with conservation to see if you get lucky and manage to upgrade from 69 to 70. It’s worth bearing in mind 69 is a great grade - perfect to the naked eye. A 70 is ‘no imperfections visible unde 5x magnification’. lovely set!

I don’t know if just an issue my side but I can’t see the image you posted? Have looked on my phone and ipad

£388 each? Seems a bit ££££

Buying and grading yourself is the cheaper route, but you need to selective in what you send as it has to be essentially perfect to get a 70 - the tiniest scratch, hairline or imperfection will knock it down a grade at least. High grade bullion can actually be fairly rare as it comes flying off a machine at the mint, gets stored in tubes and isn’t struck to the best standards in general. Many people who want to go down the graded route will collect proofs but grade what you want and what you enjoy!

PCGS and NGC are the two main grading companies. They are independent from the various mints and grade coins according to their own scale. Proof coins are given a ‘PR/PF’ prefix and a numerical grade with 70 being the top. Uncirculated/bullion coins are given a ‘mint state’ ie MS grade with 70 being the top. It’s perfectly possible to get MS70 Britannias (either buying second hand or grading your own) - they are just Royal Mint Britannias which have been graded and encapsulated by one of the two major firms. Expect to pay up though…! p.s. there are other minor grading firms. Typically best avoided as they are nowhere near as widely recognised.

Looks like there will be a 2021 1oz bullion version coming out as you can search for it on the RM site - or has this been released already and I completely missed it? https://www.royalmint.com/invest/bullion/uk-coin-ranges/gold-standard/

Lovely design but afraid a tad steep. I’m sure it looks great in the 1oz but agree it’s more a bullion coin than a proof design

From those pics I think the mint might struggle to see anything particularly wrong with it but always hard to say without seeing the coin in the flesh. They don’t guarantee pf70s (anything above pf68 is deemed acceptable by them). i would be tempted to cross my fingers and send it in for grading. Ensure you go for conservation!

Yea, I had similar a few weeks back. Went for a 'buy it now' on a 2017 raw proof Sov at £700. Woke up to find I'd been refunded with the below excuse. Why list at £700 if you're not happy with the price! Think its just Ebay shenanigans and par for the course

Entirely a personal choice, but I tend not to bother grading 1 oz silver coins as the cost is a bit disproportionate to the value of the coin

Thats just how they come from the mint I'm afraid! You can get an air duster and carefully unscrew the capsule and use it to blow the stuff off - the compressed air in a can type stuff you use to clean electronics. If you decide to go down the grading route, tick the 'conservation' option and for about £12 they will do it for you before sticking it in a slab.