anybody know anything about Silver hallmarks?

[finbar1970]

hoping somebody can help me out? I found a few spoons while sorting through some bits and bobs in the loft. this spoon does anybody also know what the design is for? any help is appreciated. thank you.

[TheAnimist]

I know nothing about them, but Google Lens pointed me to this page 😃

https://www.silvercollection.it/englishsilvermarksXWDUE.html

[finbar1970]

thanks, thats the first thing i did too but it still left me confused lol one site said on thing and another site said something else lol so I was hoping we had someone who might be able to clear it up?

what I think so far from right to left is london, silver, 1915 or 1935? and the sovereign head is a duty mark but used between 1784-1890 which would meen the date letter was wrong??? lol

[James32]

@stefffana @sixgun @Mobius should be able to help

[sixgun]

i am looking at this but the surround is not quite right otherwise it is.

[Wampum]

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Edited March 13 by Wampum

[Muncle]

This looks like it is from a Royal Corps of Signals mess dining set with the engraved crowned figure of Mercury.

Hallmarks look much older than those of this corps, which is only 104 years old with the Mercury (Jimmy) 103 years old.

 

 

[finbar1970]

1 hour ago, sixgun said:

i am looking at this but the surround is not quite right otherwise it is.

i thought maybe 1788?

 

[sixgun]

4 hours ago, finbar1970 said:

i thought maybe 1788?

 

no - the leopard does not have a crown on your silver piece.

This leopard face was on London silver between 1821/22 and 1836/37 - that's it. It has to be in that date range. A lot older than the OP initially thought.

Edited March 13 by sixgun

[MickB]

An old spoon engraved with Jimmy at a later date. Was this in your family for a while & anyone in your family serve in the Royal Signals in the past?

[Mobius]

It has to be after 1820/21 (because the leopard has no crown) and before 1837 (when the duty mark changed to Victoria), so it must be 1828 as @sixgun says.

[Petra]

Someone found an old set of silver cutlery and got them marked up for the Royal Signals, either to take into the mess or be smart and have them at home🤔

[Muncle]

Not so sure. Its the engraving itself of the Jimmy, almost a more stylised version than an official one that would be used in a mess on closer inspection.

The engraving looks like it has some age.

A very interesting item. 

[MickB]

I would have expected a Swift and Sure conclusion to this spoon by now 😁

[finbar1970]

so defo 1828,  my Dad was Royal Marines, I think it might of been gifted to him or he's won it in a shooting comp? he had loads of different bits and bobs from comp's back then? lol he was a bit of a dead eye!

[MickB]

A bootneck with a dead eye, nice one.

Did you follow in his footsteps and sign up? 

[finbar1970]

i was rejected on medical gorunds! absolutely gutted at the time! he passed away when I was 7 and I was determind to join up so it hit me bad when I couldn't, but such is life!

 

Edited March 14 by finbar1970

[SidS]

It's not unusual for items to be engraved at a later date. Many pocket watch fobs will have an engraving date (birthday/graduation) which can be decades later than the hallmark date. I see no issue there.

Edited March 14 by SidS