Interesting pair of mint error coins

[paulmerton]

Just noticed these for sale at the royal mint, but it doesn't say much about them or show the NGC capsule(s?) they come in. One blank struck on top of another maybe?

https://www.royalmint.com/shop/monarch/queen-elizabeth-ii/Queen-Elizabeth-II-Hong-Kong-1975-Gold-Proof-1000-MS63-and-gold-planchet-MINT-ERROR/

 

[Tamcddd]

Good looking out 👌 

[dicker]

3 hours ago, paulmerton said:

Just noticed these for sale at the royal mint, but it doesn't say much about them or show the NGC capsule(s?) they come in. One blank struck on top of another maybe?

https://www.royalmint.com/shop/monarch/queen-elizabeth-ii/Queen-Elizabeth-II-Hong-Kong-1975-Gold-Proof-1000-MS63-and-gold-planchet-MINT-ERROR/

 

Hi Paul

Blank on top of blank is definitely possible.  I definitely haven’t seen this error before and in fact:

I don’t know much about this coin - I have seen one for sale somewhere (no error).  I think there is also a commemorative handover coin with an error. Good old RM!

[paulmerton]

28 minutes ago, dicker said:

Hi Paul

Blank on top of blank is definitely possible.  I definitely haven’t seen this error before and in fact:

I don’t know much about this coin - I have seen one for sale somewhere (no error).  I think there is also a commemorative handover coin with an error. Good old RM!

Ah, I think it might actually just be a normal double sided coin and then a blank one too. The ordering of the photos and the lack of details is a bit confusing.

If it's just a totally blank planchet then that explains why it looks like the both sides have been rimmed.

[paulmerton]

On another note, I'm not sure what I think about RM selling error coins at a premium. How do we know they're not making them on purpose so they can sell them for more 😆

[bluffer]

1 hour ago, paulmerton said:

On another note, I'm not sure what I think about RM selling error coins at a premium. How do we know they're not making them on purpose so they can sell them for more 😆

that would explain a lot 🤣

[TheShinyStuff]

1 hour ago, paulmerton said:

Ah, I think it might actually just be a normal double sided coin and then a blank one too. The ordering of the photos and the lack of details is a bit confusing.

If it's just a totally blank planchet then that explains why it looks like the both sides have been rimmed.

Surely the can't be selling a blank planchet as an error? They could claim it was anything in that case - a hitherto unknown 1819 sovereign error for example.

A blank planchet is just that, a blank planchet. It must be 2 coins, each blank on one side.

[paulmerton]

2 hours ago, TheShinyStuff said:

Surely the can't be selling a blank planchet as an error? They could claim it was anything in that case - a hitherto unknown 1819 sovereign error for example.

A blank planchet is just that, a blank planchet. It must be 2 coins, each blank on one side.

I think it is a blank because it looks rimmed. A blank that ends up in circulation is still a mint error because it shouldn't have left the mint.

[dicker]

10 hours ago, paulmerton said:

On another note, I'm not sure what I think about RM selling error coins at a premium. How do we know they're not making them on purpose so they can sell them for more 😆

Fair point.  I suspect there is a big hopper of screwups that they could rifle through…

 

[paulmerton]

6 hours ago, dicker said:

Fair point.  I suspect there is a big hopper of screwups that they could rifle through…

 

There would certainly be a plentiful supply of unstruck blanks!

I have quite a few, but nothing quite as exotic as a double sovereign blank unfortunately. I'm not entirely sure how anyone could distinguish a double sovereign blank from a 1975 Hong Kong $1000 blank if they're supposed to be the same spec, which is another thing they could do with explaining if they want anyone to spend that much!