Gillick Sovereigns from the RM - Delivered in Rolls or bags?

[dicker]

Hi all but particularly @LawrenceChard who may have a definitive answer….

Can anyone confirm how Gillicks were packaged for delivery outside of the RM

- Rolls of Gillicks?

- In the standard bank bags

- Other that I don’t know about?

Thanks

Dicker

[LawrenceChard]

9 minutes ago, dicker said:

Hi all but particularly @LawrenceChard who may have a definitive answer….

Can anyone confirm how Gillicks were packaged for delivery outside of the RM

- Rolls of Gillicks?

- In the standard bank bags

- Other that I don’t know about?

Thanks

Dicker

Thanks for the advance mention.

the last mint bag of sovereigns I had was...

... Actually I can't remember what year it would have been, so I don't know if it was full of Gillicks, but it was unlikely to be after 1966. so I suspect it must have been full of Machins, possibly in 1974.

My guess is that Gillicks were probably delivered as "shot" in £1,000 sacks.

I will let you know if I come across any in one of our strongrooms.

😎

[dicker]

I ask because I have not seen anywhere Gillicks or Bullion Sovs of the ear being supplied in paper rolls - but have heard of them being supplied in bags.

Even pennies in the 60’s seem to have been often supplied in RM tubes (example here). Unless it’s an eBay fake!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224912043182?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bzb01hzgQ9e&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=bYgKomkjQOW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[Petra]

12 minutes ago, dicker said:

I ask because I have not seen anywhere Gillicks or Bullion Sovs of the ear being supplied in paper rolls - but have heard of them being supplied in bags.

Even pennies in the 60’s seem to have been often supplied in RM tubes (example here). Unless it’s an eBay fake!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224912043182?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bzb01hzgQ9e&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=bYgKomkjQOW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

The top has a dollar sign!? American tube that held ‘pennies’?

[dicker]

On reflection, the packaging is probably reflective of the use of the coins.

Sovs to be used as collateral / bullion abroad, rolls of coins delivered to U.K. shops.

 

 

1 minute ago, Petra said:

The top has a dollar sign!? American tube that held ‘pennies’?

It is eBay!

[dicker]

For a giggle look at the rolls of Morgan Dollars on eBay. 

[SidS]

To my knowledge most British coins were issued in bags no? I'm happy to be corrected.

There's a great photo in the 2000 Coincraft catalogue of mint workers checking silver coins before throwing them in mint sacks, and then those mint sacks being stacked ready for delivery - the photos seem to be from the 1910-1930 era.

The only rolls in British coinage I can think of were those red cardboard coin tubes for pre-decimal coins in the 1960s - were these issued by the mint though or done by banks?

Certainly the 1971 decimal coins were shrink wrapped into plastic rolls of some kind - seen many a 1971 halfpenny roll for sale on eBay. 

I'm not sure how modern currency comes in from the mint though? All the banks I've ever used seem to favour the classic change bags - previously paper in pre-decimal/early decimal days.

[Petra]

Bags obvious choice, chuck em in, weigh em and onto the truck!

[dicker]

1 hour ago, Petra said:

Bags obvious choice, chuck em in, weigh em and onto the truck!

Rather like the RM’s current proof programme!

[Petra]

45 minutes ago, dicker said:

Rather like the RM’s current proof programme!

🫢😁

[Foster88]

@dicker Svcollector sold some Gillicks on here earlier last year, possibly late 2020 which were all 1963 Gillick sovereigns and they were in a roll/paper covered like a tube.

I don’t know if that helps at all.

[dicker]

6 hours ago, Foster88 said:

@dicker Svcollector sold some Gillicks on here earlier last year, possibly late 2020 which were all 1963 Gillick sovereigns and they were in a roll/paper covered like a tube.

I don’t know if that helps at all.

Very interesting - do you have a pic at all?

Thanks

Dicker

[Petra]

Probably find that when the restarted minting sovereigns they were put in rolls, as compared to previously the numbers were vastly different and they weren’t being shipped out in quantities to be used daily in banks etc.

[Midasfrog]

On 10/08/2022 at 23:15, Foster88 said:

@dicker Svcollector sold some Gillicks on here earlier last year, possibly late 2020 which were all 1963 Gillick sovereigns and they were in a roll/paper covered like a tube.

I don’t know if that helps at all.

I had a similar roll with 1963 Gillick sixpences , it was made of brown paper in a spiral wrap all BU coins 👍