2020 Britannia Design

[Oldun]

The shield design (lion’s face)  looks like those Scottsdale stacker rounds. Nothing wrong with the stacker rounds but not on a RM coin. V lazy and a premium toboot ?

[Oldun]

As for the design of the waves, don’t even get me started as a 20 year surfer. That is a river flowing up against a rock or sand bar....please go research what an actual wave looks like in the ocean for god’s sake !

[Xander]

Here's a wave👋

[sovereignsteve]

I actually think the lion head shield spoils an otherwise decent design, would have looked better with a plainish one.

[Oldun]

 

[Oldun]

 

[Xander]

5 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

I actually think the lion head shield spoils an otherwise decent design, would have looked better with a plainish one.

Something like

[Oldun]

The RM wouldn’t know the right design of an ocean wave (either mid ocean or breaking) if it bit them in the backside

[watchesandwhisky]

Have gone for the reverse proof set.

[Bullionaire]

12 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

I actually think the lion head shield spoils an otherwise decent design, would have looked better with a plainish one.

Something like this?

 

[Oldun]

14 minutes ago, Xander said:

Here's a wave👋

 

[Shinus73]

28 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

I don't know what people see in the reverse proof concept, they just look like Perth mints standard bullion coins to me

Also, some of the sets from previous years can still be had on Apmex for less than $200.

[watchesandwhisky]

700 mintage on the reverse proof is the lowest for a 1oz silver coin at 700, less than 25% of the mintage number for the standard proof. Thats what temps me on this one. 

[Oldun]

This is simply The RM kneejerking low mintage figures success  from the Una series. Nothing more, nothing less. It is still a bad design. Don’t get sucked in.

[watchesandwhisky]

I think the "Una Effect" is likely to make the resale value of many of there coins go higher than usual due to fomo.

[Oldun]

Not in silver it wont. And I highly doubt even in gold over the long run. Only people who will pay for these are whole series run collectors or flippers pumping them.

[watchesandwhisky]

Should have said short term, agree there - but id be very surprised if these dont do well on the secondary market.

[Oldun]

By those that are new to the game as a result of recent publicity re Brexit 50p and The Una or are just taking a wild punt.

These will not hold their value in silver. Not a chance, at least not in my lifetime.

[Kman]

6 minutes ago, Oldun said:

This is simply The RM kneejerking low mintage figures success  from the Una series. Nothing more, nothing less. It is still a bad design. Don’t get sucked in.

I would say it's a top 5 Britannia design for me, if not top 3

I don't like many Brtiannia designs so that's not super glowing praise but still

[watchesandwhisky]

I think with the flag design it makes a good brexit coin substitute. 

[Oldun]

2 minutes ago, Kman said:

I would say it's a top 5 Britannia design for me, if not top 3

I don't like many Brtiannia designs so that's not super glowing praise but still

That is a huuuuuge call. Can’t get behind it myself but beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that

[Oldun]

11 minutes ago, Madstacks said:

I think with the flag design it makes a good brexit coin substitute. 

Nailed it. That is the ONLY pump and dump poor design bit that works re this year’s redeeming “suck em in”factor. That flag  and the placement of the numbers 2020, as I mentioned I liked earlier is the best bit in a shoddy effort generally, regardless of mintage.

[goldmember44]

41 minutes ago, Oldun said:

By those that are new to the game as a result of recent publicity re Brexit 50p and The Una or are just taking a wild punt.

These will not hold their value in silver. Not a chance, at least not in my lifetime.

Depends... I don't foresee the price of silver to remain as cheap as it is now for decades...it might increase substantially and then all these coins will be in profit. But aside from that, whilst I have broadly agreed with you in general, I have recently noticed a change in attitude towards Royal Mint silver proofs. Maybe that is only temporary and also due to Brexit, only time will tell. 

[goldmember44]

42 minutes ago, Oldun said:

That is a huuuuuge call. Can’t get behind it myself but beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that

Yes, I find it interesting that we all have different tastes when it comes to coin designs...

[goldmember44]

49 minutes ago, Madstacks said:

Should have said short term, agree there - but id be very surprised if these dont do well on the secondary market.

The Royal Mint is playing the mintages game well. Make a release exclusive enough, and it will attract a certain amount of support from some quarters. These low mintages are not really sustainable I think, RM will need to find the sweet spot. If we get more interest in British proof coins from only a fraction of hardcore collectors (and dealers) in America and now also increasingly China, these low mintages will be rapidly oversubscribed and the coins become sought after. This may be the RM strategy..