SilverMike

I wonder if this is what has pumped the recent prices in hammered coins, word has got out the mint are buying to make sets up? Some crazy prices at Spink recently for nice, but not normally extremely expensive coins. Wouldn't want to be on that spike, ive had some nice, high grade hammered coins and I become ambivalent to them quickly and move them on

Yeah, I only learnt about it on the Gothic release (after the event), you needed the product code and you could link straight to it and add to basked immediatly on release. It didn't work this morning

I didn't have the balls to go for it in 2oz Gold but I know I will be trying later down the line, I did go for it in 1oz Gold and 2oz silver though 😉

Like the great engravers there's no formal continuity, but also like the great engravers if you have collected all the past ones it definitely gives you a better chance of securing one when you get put on reserve lists and speak to them. It isn't about this release for me, albeit clever what they've done and im looking forward to getting it. Wether I keep it or not is another thing. For me, im interested in the future releases, when you get to George III and the dims match up with a few outliers on the way, William and Mary, Queen Mary, Elizabeth I etc. These are going to be in proof, with the Edward VII, will they do a matt proof to match the 1902? we'll see at the end of this year, but anything from George III onwards (in monarch date order) is going to be very hot imo. These other ones we'll see.... what about a special release of Edward VIII 😅

Not sure whats happening but its 100 for the 1oz. 75 less than the 2oz…

Well, thats the “limited edition presentation” apparently. Could be higher for other sets

Silver: 1oz x 1250 2oz x 700 5oz x 275 Gold 1oz x 600 2oz x 175 5oz x 75

No, https://www.moderncoinmart.com

Is it me missing something, these gold £100 1oz coins don't seem to appear in the gazette? It only mentioned the 200 2oz unless I missed it entirely? that label isn't a Royal Mint label either, I'm wondering if its a special commission like they did on the QB Completer and it wont actually be for sale via RM. We’ll be offered the 2oz gold where the 1oz is from MCM or somewhere like that? Edit: Pretty sure its MCM.

2022 Crowns, both plain edge with incuse writing lettering 🙂

Ive looked at this too. I think the diameter of the gold also just lies outside of the max size. Also the bulk submission requirement is difficult to meet, from memory it needs to be over 100coins.

On this size i leave mine in the capsule and push it into the 2.5 flip and label the flip. Ive always got the capsules back as long as you tick the box, but they don’t necessarily come back at the same time edit: sorry if you mean a 5oz or 10oz, i tape the capsule shut so it doesn't open then label capsule

Depending on what you are selling and its respective value you can normally negotiate either very low or zero seller fees with a few of the bigger coin players, heritage, DNW, Spink etc. But the auction houses all will take their 20-30% cut somewhere so the amount you ultimately get back is probably not that different as most buyers will (should) take the buyer fees into consideration. There are some of the online auctions that have lower total fees, such as @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions so you get more back but it depends on what market you want to hit I guess and what you think is the best psychology. best of luck

I think thats fair enough, but I imagine the vast majority of us, regardless of out respective nett worth collect within a range of affordability. I think for most of us a £5k gold coin is either unaffordable or a serious investment. If that coin never really changed much in value those who could afford it would likely be happy to hold and enjoy. But if that coin becomes worth 20k that collector needs to seriously ask themselves is it worth 20k to me, would I buy it for 20k, could I afford to buy it for 20k, do I want a 20k coin in my collection, etc. If the answer is no to any of those questions then I think its time to sell to someone who will answer yes to one or more and everyone moves on, the seller happy they had one for a while and isnnow able to buy stuff that suita their affordability and the buyer enjoying their valuable collection. Dont get me wrong, there a handfull that have just come in to the market as they see rhe margins, but i have no issue with them as to be successful they need to do a lot of research first. I also genuinely don’t think they refelct the majority of what alot of people here and elsewhere are grouping as ‘flippers’

I’d be interested to know if my latest exploits deem me a flipper or not: i bought the silver 2022 annual sets as I wanted the JC crown. I don't want the rest, not my thing and they are expensive. So I've stripped it out the set. I had offered the remainder here at what was equivalent to less than cost. No one wanted them, fair enough, so I've shot the lot on ebay to move on. If those coins sell and I effectively get the crown I wanted for cheap, next to nothing or even make more than the whole set cost does that make me a flipper? but if they sell for nothing and the crown costs me a 80% of the set price does that make me a collector? some would say how can I be a collector splitting a set up, but thats exactly what the daddy of flippers does, the RM and i’ve collected the crown(s).

Everyone is a flipper imo, just different strokes for different folks. unless you’re getting buried with them, but even then you are just keeping them for the flippers of the future. Id be interested to hear from those that adamantly deem themselves not flippers as to what is an acceptable period of time to hold a coin to say you are a genuine collector and at the point is there an acceptable % uplift over what you paid on release that you deem not profiteering? Or do you need to sell at what you paid (irrespective of time and markets) to not be a flipper? if the market has crashed and you sell for what you paid is that ok? i get it, ive been annoyed when ive missed releases but i dont hold it personally against those selling, yes some regret and undoubtedly envy but i just accept it, but everyone is different

I am expecting a graded 70 set in silver to have a floor of about 1500 and rise from there, graded gold 30k ish+. Graded Plain edge gold set, could (probably will imo) fly.

Joined the 1935 party, in truth I've had one on the list for a long time but its never got to the top, however they seem to have become more popular recently and I didn’t want to miss the boat.. will update with grade when I have it.

Surely this isn't fair on collectors, I have no issue with with a broad release but they should be releasing the info beforehand so people know what's coming and can ask questions. There are going to be loads of **** ups. Good luck everyone @ArgentSmith PM sent

More about the range and the design just been put up: https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/the-queens-platinum-jubilee/behind-the-designs-with-john-bergdahl/

Hey @westminstrel, my reading of it is that the annual sets will have the JC portrait (my preference in this case also) and the separate releases will have the queen on horseback. This applies to the £5 and “70” 50p (I think) in the gold, platinum and silver ranges. Going to be pricey though, here are the release details, mintages etc: https://www.royalmint.com/aboutus/press-centre/the-royal-mint-reveals-new-coins-for-2022-including-the-queens-platinum-jubilee-50p/ although the platinum mintage set is only 30 (nearly £10k for the set!), my preference is still the gold, a snip at £7.1k 😂…

Bare in mind this won it last year, at which point the competition lost all credibility imo. even this year, although I have no issue with the completer winning it, the £5 BU wasnt the choice of the range. that the insulin, the prince philip and the remembrance coin come in above the sovereign makes this years competition almost as farcical, imo 🙂

100% agree with this, ive had the same experience. It is normal and I know what you mean, unlike the old proofs which have a very flat and mirror surface (allowing for die polishing) the modern ones on a 10+ ish magnification seem to have a ‘mottled’ look. i assume its just the difference between the manufacturing techniques of the dies. The modern ones look ok in hand though but assume they aren't lapped and finished as they used to be. The use of modern multi-axis machining can also sometimes be seen in the details of the designs, normally on what should be smooth long running details. It does annoy me sometimes but it’s just the difference in machining techniques.

Almost certainly @Paul. They normally do a low mintage gold set and then they’ll probably also release it separately but with a different obv it seems. they did something similar last year on the decimal day 50p, the only way to get one with the Machin portrait was to buy the set, the general release one had the JC portrait

The £5 is a knock out, well done RM. I think the 70 50p is ok, not sure yet. personally ive never been a fan of the queen on horseback, hopefully they do a nice job of it. But as you point out @GoldDiggerDave the £5 will be popular with sov collectors, particularly the one with the JC portrait rather than the commemorative crown version I think the gold annual sets last year had a mintage of 90 from memory, I think it’ll be about the same this year.