tpcob303

I went to bucherer with a plan, I asked them to put me on the so called "waiting list" for a 41mm plain bezel steel blue dial date just. I know I need to spend more with them so when I do buy a watch and they come and call for me it's so I can tell them I don't want the rolex. I don't think I will ever want to buy one ever and why the prices second hand can be more than retail when the market is flooded with them defies logic of supply and demand (except for new versions but AD discretion disgusts me) which is why if they ever call and I have the cash I will always refuse and buy myself something else like an Omega but it seems every time I look to put the cash aside I end up buying coins.

I remember a similar advert in the daily telegraph weekly magazine on a Saturday which is how I got my first sovereign, £50 on an offer from the Royal Mint. I bought it with my own money and was told it would never grow in value and also made by my parents to send it back for a cash refund. How wrong they were...Good point while you might listen to your parents advice never always do it. 

I remember a similar advert in the daily telegraph weekly magazine on a Saturday which is how I got my first sovereign, £50 on an offer from the Royal Mint. I bought it with my own money and was told it would never grow in value and also made by my parents to send it back for a cash refund. How wrong they were...Good point while you might listen to your parents advice never always do it. 

Yes. William Wellesley Pole. One time Master of the Royal Mint and the elder brother of the Duke of Wellington.

Sorry I had to write at length my brain goes into over drive with ideas and opinions. Can make for difficult reading for some and get told I write too much. 
 
A not so great engravers is an unknown of course just not sure what they would bring to the table. Maybe a 1960 crown Quartered Arms or 1937 wreath crown perhaps.
 
Also does anyone know what the WWP initials on the buckle stand for that they apparently left out other times they used the garter belt.

Hi Dave. I think you’ve taken my comments out of context. I wasn’t implying that this release is from a “Not So Great Engraver”. I was responding to tpcob303’s post wherein he stated “No more after this release for GE I expect”. I merely suggested a Not So Great Engraver series as a follow up, purely because the RM is flogging the music legends series to death and could do so again with the Great Engravers series.
Perhaps you meant to quote tpcob’s own lengthy follow up comments after my own one?

The not so great engravers series. Hmm, we have monarchs series and I'm not sure whats going to happen when it gets to Victoria and Elizabeth as not many monarchs had multiple effigies throughout their reign. 
I think people are tired of getting burned by multiple series expecting to be able to sell on and make back what they spent.
The buzz about una and the fact if you are able to score a rare 70 when bought new and get to grade and hold on for a while to make the profit is long gone. 
 
Too much made, low quality, multiple returns by many, long wait times for release day sales and cost of living means that people with money aren't as much especially now there is no free covid money to splash. Here in Germany we had no free money handouts and available help had to be paid back to the government. I would rather spend money on brits and sovereigns than cheap tat and buy 1 GE coin and then close the series off and wait many years before a new series is released. The coronation series being new was good as there was a new design that was contemporary but also classic and I would like modern coin series to stop and have more one off coins withblow mintages rather than a prolonged series like queen's or tudor beast where it drains accounts for what is essentially going to make a bugger loss in the short to medium term and takes ages to make back what you spent in the long term if not still not make your money back in the long term. 
It's the main reason I stopped buying 50p coins, why if I buy a coin from a series I only buy the bullion. I know that I'm limiting the burn to the basic market value of the commodity plus the premium for having physical gold or silver. I bought the latest coin as I don't think there will be another Silver  Pistrucci St George with Charles, the last time there was it had Elizabeth in 2013 and that came in £5 proof with a mintage of 10k and bunc £20 with 100k mintage, before that was 1951 5 shillings which was PL or VIP proof and it wasn't even silver due to the change over so such a coin isn't going to come along until William or George with the others allowing me to own a piece of history where I can't afford an original and don't expect another to be made under the next few monarchs either. We will continue to get cheap tat until something original but classic in design comes out. 

Thanks, but it's the raised edge lettering rather than the reverse design that would be the main reason for wanting to give this new coin a proper fondle.

I know the purists are likely getting moist over the Great Engravers or the Una bars but this looked fun so preordered today (5,000 mintage)

The not so great engravers series. Hmm, we have monarchs series and I'm not sure whats going to happen when it gets to Victoria and Elizabeth as not many monarchs had multiple effigies throughout their reign. 
I think people are tired of getting burned by multiple series expecting to be able to sell on and make back what they spent.
The buzz about una and the fact if you are able to score a rare 70 when bought new and get to grade and hold on for a while to make the profit is long gone. 
 
Too much made, low quality, multiple returns by many, long wait times for release day sales and cost of living means that people with money aren't as much especially now there is no free covid money to splash. Here in Germany we had no free money handouts and available help had to be paid back to the government. I would rather spend money on brits and sovereigns than cheap tat and buy 1 GE coin and then close the series off and wait many years before a new series is released. The coronation series being new was good as there was a new design that was contemporary but also classic and I would like modern coin series to stop and have more one off coins withblow mintages rather than a prolonged series like queen's or tudor beast where it drains accounts for what is essentially going to make a bugger loss in the short to medium term and takes ages to make back what you spent in the long term if not still not make your money back in the long term. 
It's the main reason I stopped buying 50p coins, why if I buy a coin from a series I only buy the bullion. I know that I'm limiting the burn to the basic market value of the commodity plus the premium for having physical gold or silver. I bought the latest coin as I don't think there will be another Silver  Pistrucci St George with Charles, the last time there was it had Elizabeth in 2013 and that came in £5 proof with a mintage of 10k and bunc £20 with 100k mintage, before that was 1951 5 shillings which was PL or VIP proof and it wasn't even silver due to the change over so such a coin isn't going to come along until William or George with the others allowing me to own a piece of history where I can't afford an original and don't expect another to be made under the next few monarchs either. We will continue to get cheap tat until something original but classic in design comes out. 

The not so great engravers series. Hmm, we have monarchs series and I'm not sure whats going to happen when it gets to Victoria and Elizabeth as not many monarchs had multiple effigies throughout their reign. 
I think people are tired of getting burned by multiple series expecting to be able to sell on and make back what they spent.
The buzz about una and the fact if you are able to score a rare 70 when bought new and get to grade and hold on for a while to make the profit is long gone. 
 
Too much made, low quality, multiple returns by many, long wait times for release day sales and cost of living means that people with money aren't as much especially now there is no free covid money to splash. Here in Germany we had no free money handouts and available help had to be paid back to the government. I would rather spend money on brits and sovereigns than cheap tat and buy 1 GE coin and then close the series off and wait many years before a new series is released. The coronation series being new was good as there was a new design that was contemporary but also classic and I would like modern coin series to stop and have more one off coins withblow mintages rather than a prolonged series like queen's or tudor beast where it drains accounts for what is essentially going to make a bugger loss in the short to medium term and takes ages to make back what you spent in the long term if not still not make your money back in the long term. 
It's the main reason I stopped buying 50p coins, why if I buy a coin from a series I only buy the bullion. I know that I'm limiting the burn to the basic market value of the commodity plus the premium for having physical gold or silver. I bought the latest coin as I don't think there will be another Silver  Pistrucci St George with Charles, the last time there was it had Elizabeth in 2013 and that came in £5 proof with a mintage of 10k and bunc £20 with 100k mintage, before that was 1951 5 shillings which was PL or VIP proof and it wasn't even silver due to the change over so such a coin isn't going to come along until William or George with the others allowing me to own a piece of history where I can't afford an original and don't expect another to be made under the next few monarchs either. We will continue to get cheap tat until something original but classic in design comes out. 

I'm sure some are sending. Most will get a 69.
As for the series I want it to stop. They will always bring back old designs bit in a different series or a one off like on Charles 50p coins they had the QA from what shpuld have been kept on a crown. 
 

I'm sure some are sending. Most will get a 69.
As for the series I want it to stop. They will always bring back old designs bit in a different series or a one off like on Charles 50p coins they had the QA from what shpuld have been kept on a crown. 
 

5oz silver has definitely won, looks like the best choice to go for....but it's sold out. 

Im not referring to the fact you lose money when flipping. Thats irrelevant if a collector im talking about the design with the edge lettering looking more proportional to the coin. 
as for flipping for profit, you might be right. 

Im not referring to the fact you lose money when flipping. Thats irrelevant if a collector im talking about the design with the edge lettering looking more proportional to the coin. 
as for flipping for profit, you might be right. 

Im not referring to the fact you lose money when flipping. Thats irrelevant if a collector im talking about the design with the edge lettering looking more proportional to the coin. 
as for flipping for profit, you might be right. 

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It's two lines rather than one line, 1935 had one line raised edge on proof version of the crown whereas 2 lines would be much harder to achieve a good finish. 

You will queue and buy as you are told to do. Do not pass go and do spend £200+ as required. There will be no parousing. 

You will queue and buy as you are told to do. Do not pass go and do spend £200+ as required. There will be no parousing. 

You will queue and buy as you are told to do. Do not pass go and do spend £200+ as required. There will be no parousing. 

You will queue and buy as you are told to do. Do not pass go and do spend £200+ as required. There will be no parousing. 

I think there are some good points you make with your opinions regarding collectors and flipping. Being someone who does collect pistrucci st george, it will certainly be one coin to get.....hopefully the last one of the year (I keep trying to save for a new watch and have grading costs to consider for othe items). 
 
Not sure how well it will do on the secondary market, mintage might play a major factor. Though while there maybe millions especially for 1951 and mamy circulated versions finding a high quality version of any year that will grade well can be hard to find when as I do live outside the UK. The last silver versions were 2013 in proof and they had 10,000 and the £20 bunc had 100,000 mintage. I expect this might be the one and only for king Charles and certain features like raised edge lettering or how the mint tries to describe it as making an "excuse" (not sure why they thought that word meant the opposite of incuse) it certainly is a good excuse for me to buy another Pistrucci st george coin for the collection. 
Things that will cause the crash and burn for most people will be as usual overall quality control and final finish. Betting on many getting milk spots and the odd few with scratches. 
Though i do expect a sell out on release day. 

I have really given up on nationwide, blocks me every time no matter what so I buy it with my special foreign currency card from HSBC. No matter what happens with my regular account as that blocks sometimes it always goes through on the foreign currency card (global money account).