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ChrisSilver

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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from NewCoins in Three Graces grading journey   
    No problem for members to discuss grading, as long as not advertising 3rd party grading services off of the forum.  

    Many members choose to grade themselves directly with NGC / PCGS, there is no need to necessarily use a company to grade for you. And it is a myth that you can receive a higher grade if grading via a 3rd party. 

    Note that unfortunately the TSF label is not available if you grade directly with NGC and is only available via COR. Also note the £13 per form grading fee when grading directly with NGC. So grading directly for smaller quantities of coins can work out more expensive than going via @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions (who as well as being TSF's Official Grading partner are also an Authorised NGC dealer).

    You can easily compare the costs of grading in the UK with NGC direct yourself by going to their website here: https://www.ngccoin.uk/submit/services-fees/ngc/ (again don't forget to also include that £13, as well as the NGC return shipping cost which is quite expensive if going direct to NGC, I think it was from £36 return shipping cost when I did but another member can hopefully correct me on this if I am mistaken as to NGC's return shipping cost, although this obviously is not applicable if picking up direct from the NGC office) and you can compare to the grading fees with @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions (discounts applicable for different Premium Member groups, pricing and info available here)

    Pros of grading via Coins of the Realm
    - Optional TSF branded label available
    - Lower cost for small and medium quantities of coins submitted as no £13 per form charge. 

    Pros of grading direct with NGC UK
    - If you live in or close to London and there is no or low cost travel expenses to get to the NGC office you can drop off and pick up in person to save shipping fees (especially the very high return charge from NGC).
    - Can work out cheaper if you are submitting large quantities of coins, e.g. if you have 20 coins on the same sheet effectively reduces the £13 fee to just £0.65 per coin.

    I'm not sure if it will be a possibility, and it is something would need to ask NGC, but wondering if there is any possibility for members who submitted via @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions to then collect their coins in person at the NGC office? This may not be logistically possible or even allowable under the NGC rules, but tagging in Louise as she may be able to answer that  

    Note that TSF does not receive any money for members choosing to grade via COR. Unless however a chargeable fee for the TSF label is applicable, this is then passed onto TSF. TSF is not expecting to even break even on the $1000 label charge that we paid, however if members choose to get this label it will hopefully promote and advertise TSF in the long term. The TSF label was also designed to fit in nicely with other Standard NGC labels or standard NGC blue Early Releases / First Releases labels that members may have in their collection so that their TSF branded NGC graded coins go well in their collection. TSF supports itself via Premium Membership subscriptions and Platinum Premium Member groups receive optional FREE TSF branded labels when grading via COR this also will help to support the forum. 

    In conclusion, members are free to grade directly with NGC and it is a good topic for discussion on how to do it. As above it may be a lower cost to grade via COR so it is worth working out the costs. 

    In regards to PCGS, I can't really say anything just yet, but I can say that TSF is working on something in relation to this and this will be announced in due course, again it will be a system set up whereby TSF does not receive a commission but does negotiate lower rates for Premium Members. More details on that to come sometime this year  
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from NewCoins in Three Graces grading journey   
    No problem for members to discuss grading, as long as not advertising 3rd party grading services off of the forum.  

    Many members choose to grade themselves directly with NGC / PCGS, there is no need to necessarily use a company to grade for you. And it is a myth that you can receive a higher grade if grading via a 3rd party. 

    Note that unfortunately the TSF label is not available if you grade directly with NGC and is only available via COR. Also note the £13 per form grading fee when grading directly with NGC. So grading directly for smaller quantities of coins can work out more expensive than going via @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions (who as well as being TSF's Official Grading partner are also an Authorised NGC dealer).

    You can easily compare the costs of grading in the UK with NGC direct yourself by going to their website here: https://www.ngccoin.uk/submit/services-fees/ngc/ (again don't forget to also include that £13, as well as the NGC return shipping cost which is quite expensive if going direct to NGC, I think it was from £36 return shipping cost when I did but another member can hopefully correct me on this if I am mistaken as to NGC's return shipping cost, although this obviously is not applicable if picking up direct from the NGC office) and you can compare to the grading fees with @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions (discounts applicable for different Premium Member groups, pricing and info available here)

    Pros of grading via Coins of the Realm
    - Optional TSF branded label available
    - Lower cost for small and medium quantities of coins submitted as no £13 per form charge. 

    Pros of grading direct with NGC UK
    - If you live in or close to London and there is no or low cost travel expenses to get to the NGC office you can drop off and pick up in person to save shipping fees (especially the very high return charge from NGC).
    - Can work out cheaper if you are submitting large quantities of coins, e.g. if you have 20 coins on the same sheet effectively reduces the £13 fee to just £0.65 per coin.

    I'm not sure if it will be a possibility, and it is something would need to ask NGC, but wondering if there is any possibility for members who submitted via @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions to then collect their coins in person at the NGC office? This may not be logistically possible or even allowable under the NGC rules, but tagging in Louise as she may be able to answer that  

    Note that TSF does not receive any money for members choosing to grade via COR. Unless however a chargeable fee for the TSF label is applicable, this is then passed onto TSF. TSF is not expecting to even break even on the $1000 label charge that we paid, however if members choose to get this label it will hopefully promote and advertise TSF in the long term. The TSF label was also designed to fit in nicely with other Standard NGC labels or standard NGC blue Early Releases / First Releases labels that members may have in their collection so that their TSF branded NGC graded coins go well in their collection. TSF supports itself via Premium Membership subscriptions and Platinum Premium Member groups receive optional FREE TSF branded labels when grading via COR this also will help to support the forum. 

    In conclusion, members are free to grade directly with NGC and it is a good topic for discussion on how to do it. As above it may be a lower cost to grade via COR so it is worth working out the costs. 

    In regards to PCGS, I can't really say anything just yet, but I can say that TSF is working on something in relation to this and this will be announced in due course, again it will be a system set up whereby TSF does not receive a commission but does negotiate lower rates for Premium Members. More details on that to come sometime this year  
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from NewCoins in Three Graces grading journey   
    No problem for members to discuss grading, as long as not advertising 3rd party grading services off of the forum.  

    Many members choose to grade themselves directly with NGC / PCGS, there is no need to necessarily use a company to grade for you. And it is a myth that you can receive a higher grade if grading via a 3rd party. 

    Note that unfortunately the TSF label is not available if you grade directly with NGC and is only available via COR. Also note the £13 per form grading fee when grading directly with NGC. So grading directly for smaller quantities of coins can work out more expensive than going via @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions (who as well as being TSF's Official Grading partner are also an Authorised NGC dealer).

    You can easily compare the costs of grading in the UK with NGC direct yourself by going to their website here: https://www.ngccoin.uk/submit/services-fees/ngc/ (again don't forget to also include that £13, as well as the NGC return shipping cost which is quite expensive if going direct to NGC, I think it was from £36 return shipping cost when I did but another member can hopefully correct me on this if I am mistaken as to NGC's return shipping cost, although this obviously is not applicable if picking up direct from the NGC office) and you can compare to the grading fees with @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions (discounts applicable for different Premium Member groups, pricing and info available here)

    Pros of grading via Coins of the Realm
    - Optional TSF branded label available
    - Lower cost for small and medium quantities of coins submitted as no £13 per form charge. 

    Pros of grading direct with NGC UK
    - If you live in or close to London and there is no or low cost travel expenses to get to the NGC office you can drop off and pick up in person to save shipping fees (especially the very high return charge from NGC).
    - Can work out cheaper if you are submitting large quantities of coins, e.g. if you have 20 coins on the same sheet effectively reduces the £13 fee to just £0.65 per coin.

    I'm not sure if it will be a possibility, and it is something would need to ask NGC, but wondering if there is any possibility for members who submitted via @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions to then collect their coins in person at the NGC office? This may not be logistically possible or even allowable under the NGC rules, but tagging in Louise as she may be able to answer that  

    Note that TSF does not receive any money for members choosing to grade via COR. Unless however a chargeable fee for the TSF label is applicable, this is then passed onto TSF. TSF is not expecting to even break even on the $1000 label charge that we paid, however if members choose to get this label it will hopefully promote and advertise TSF in the long term. The TSF label was also designed to fit in nicely with other Standard NGC labels or standard NGC blue Early Releases / First Releases labels that members may have in their collection so that their TSF branded NGC graded coins go well in their collection. TSF supports itself via Premium Membership subscriptions and Platinum Premium Member groups receive optional FREE TSF branded labels when grading via COR this also will help to support the forum. 

    In conclusion, members are free to grade directly with NGC and it is a good topic for discussion on how to do it. As above it may be a lower cost to grade via COR so it is worth working out the costs. 

    In regards to PCGS, I can't really say anything just yet, but I can say that TSF is working on something in relation to this and this will be announced in due course, again it will be a system set up whereby TSF does not receive a commission but does negotiate lower rates for Premium Members. More details on that to come sometime this year  
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from Gypsy in TSF's Official Grading Partner - Grading Service & TSF label - Prices & Submission form   
    I'm also linking to this post I made, as I believe it may contain some useful information for members who may be considering self grading and trying to weigh up the differences between each. Please also search the forum for other topics started by members who discuss how to self grade, as it may be an option for you.
     
     
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from NJSilver in Howdy!   
    Hello NJ, welcome to The Silver Forum  
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from BackyardBullion in Silver forum merchandise   
    From speaking with BYB, who said it’s OK to post this info. He is planning to release the different TSF 2021 products in April, August, November, December.
    We are also working on a new TSF branded product that we first started to discuss last year. We haven’t finalised the details of that yet so haven’t announced it yet.
    But there should be a good chance for everyone to be able to have a chance to be able to buy some branded TSF bar/round. And if not there are always some members each year who are willing to sell theirs.  
     
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from MayaPapaya in Anyone in the Cologne, Germany area who produces bullions in their "backyard"?   
    Hello and welcome to The Silver Forum  
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    ChrisSilver reacted to Rll1288 in Royal Mint - The Three Graces - FREE Grading - LIMITED Offer. + Special Offer Auction fee   
    Totally understand... @ChrisSilver thanks for giving us the chance to submit and look forward to seeing them back with their TSF livery and PF70 🙂
     
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from BackyardBullion in Silver forum merchandise   
    From speaking with BYB, who said it’s OK to post this info. He is planning to release the different TSF 2021 products in April, August, November, December.
    We are also working on a new TSF branded product that we first started to discuss last year. We haven’t finalised the details of that yet so haven’t announced it yet.
    But there should be a good chance for everyone to be able to have a chance to be able to buy some branded TSF bar/round. And if not there are always some members each year who are willing to sell theirs.  
     
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from BackyardBullion in Silver forum merchandise   
    From speaking with BYB, who said it’s OK to post this info. He is planning to release the different TSF 2021 products in April, August, November, December.
    We are also working on a new TSF branded product that we first started to discuss last year. We haven’t finalised the details of that yet so haven’t announced it yet.
    But there should be a good chance for everyone to be able to have a chance to be able to buy some branded TSF bar/round. And if not there are always some members each year who are willing to sell theirs.  
     
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from GoldenPeanutButter in Hello! new to this forum and the world of stacking   
    Hello and welcome to The Silver Forum  
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    ChrisSilver reacted to GoldenPeanutButter in Hello! new to this forum and the world of stacking   
    Hi there 👋

    So I've been lurking the forum for a while and yesterday I decided to finally register and also buy my first piece of metal, a gold sovereign! Exciting times 😄 Expect the price of gold to plunge now

    I think I got into this after watching someone on YouTube review a gold Britannia. I was stunned by how beautiful the coin was and then discovered all these other coins! Figured I could use a hobby that may at least appreciate in value 😛

    Anyway, apologies in advance for the newbie questions. Will be seeing you around, albeit from 2 meters away.
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    ChrisSilver reacted to Investinsilver in Hi. New member here 👋.   
    Hi guys. Even though I've done a trade on the forum I've never posted anything, so here goes.
    I started stacking 1oz coins but quickly found they were taking up alot of space. Now I mainly collect 10oz coins to save space. I also have an impressive 1kg coin which I love. Current stack total is 460+ oz's. 
    Stay safe everyone 👍

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    ChrisSilver reacted to JoeJ in Hi I'm new to the forum so thought I'd say hey 🙂👋👍   
    Hey 
    I'm new to this forum but just thought I'd say hi 🙂👋 
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    ChrisSilver reacted to sovereignsteve in Silver forum merchandise   
    I have a 1 oz bar from the first issue, can't remember which year. If I can find it I'm happy for it to go to a better home😉
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    ChrisSilver reacted to creative in Royal Mint - The Three Graces - FREE Grading - LIMITED Offer. + Special Offer Auction fee   
    Amazing thank you and yes, more than happy to share photos!
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from creative in Royal Mint - The Three Graces - FREE Grading - LIMITED Offer. + Special Offer Auction fee   
    I’ve decided to withdraw the offer on the gold, so we can offer the offer to the 4 other premium members who showed interest, this will mean a total of 10x silver coins TSF is covering the grading for  
    @SilverDrum, @Ducat916, @creative and the other Premium Member who private messaged me.
    That will make a total of 10, so I will close this off for entry now  
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from creative in Royal Mint - The Three Graces - FREE Grading - LIMITED Offer. + Special Offer Auction fee   
    @TringSilver, @damok666, @matt1r, @Kussilver, @Rll1288, @Colnago, @creative, @Ducat916, @SilverDrum and the other Premium Member (not tagging them in incase they didn't want to be known as they hadn't messaged in this topic) if choosing to return the coins back to you after grading, please would you be able to share photos on the forum after they arrive back? 

    As we currently do not have any photos of coins in the TSF branded labels yet, so it would be great to see, and possibly to post on the TSF instagram account also  
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    ChrisSilver reacted to TringSilver in Three graces coin   
    Seen my GF now for the first time this week, 6 graces! I feel very lucky after the ups and downs of last week.
    And amazingly I got the offer of the TSF grading so one will go to @CoinsOfTheRealmAuctions and one I'm going to have a go myself so a good learning experience. I am hoping someone does a guide! 

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    ChrisSilver reacted to Nugget in Silver forum merchandise   
    Nice one Chris.
    I just think if you have a production of say 300 or whatever now, but you've had say 400 new premium members join, then might be a good idea to increase the number produced a little so people can jump in and be part of forum support.  Selling 500 is better than 300 (I know there are other issues to consider like costs, lack of take up and so on).
    You know where I stand on other things, so I'm all up for supporting the forum financially as I genuinely believe it's a great place. 
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    ChrisSilver got a reaction from BackyardBullion in Silver forum merchandise   
    From speaking with BYB, who said it’s OK to post this info. He is planning to release the different TSF 2021 products in April, August, November, December.
    We are also working on a new TSF branded product that we first started to discuss last year. We haven’t finalised the details of that yet so haven’t announced it yet.
    But there should be a good chance for everyone to be able to have a chance to be able to buy some branded TSF bar/round. And if not there are always some members each year who are willing to sell theirs.  
     
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