Use your grading skills

[Spyder]

Following on from yesterday's discussion on grading, lets see what grade members would think these coins are. 

Before that, have a look at this first coin. Bought as better than bullion and this is the coin I received from an online dealer. It is of cause going back for a full refund. In my judgement, this coin is worse than bullion and it is way under weight.  To me better than bullion means almost uncirculated with minimal wear. 

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

I grade it at M-melt!

But don't read too much into what dealer call better than bullion. Might be that you still know what type of coin it is. 

Edited January 10 by SeverinDigsSovereigns

[Spyder]

Use your skills on these

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

The modern proof are basically PF70 then picking bits (e.g. hairlines) and deciding if they are PF69 or worse, 68.

That 1899, can't see the lustre the way you pictured it. It's thus impossible to give an opinion. It could be anything between AU55 and MS63. AU55 is basically good-ish details with trace lustre in the legend. AU58 has lustrous legend but none in the field. Judging from the high points (rein, George's head, queen's veil) my bet is MS61 or 62.

[Britannia47]

45 minutes ago, Spyder said:

Following on from yesterday's discussion on grading, lets see what grade members would think these coins are. 

Before that, have a look at this first coin. Bought as better than bullion and this is the coin I received from an online dealer. It is of cause going back for a full refund. In my judgement, this coin is worse than bullion and it is way under weight.  To me better than bullion means almost uncirculated with minimal wear. 

Unfortunately, it’s legal tender if the weight is 7.93787gms or more. Looks pretty worn though.

[Sovhead]

1899 AU50 imo

The rest all look like proofs from the pics if they aren’t swap PF for MS

2005 PF70

2008 PF68

1995 PF70

oh and see between Victoria and Dei on the 1899 there’s a strange lump.

Edited January 10 by Sovhead
Typo

[Petra]

1 hour ago, Spyder said:

Following on from yesterday's discussion on grading, lets see what grade members would think these coins are. 

Before that, have a look at this first coin. Bought as better than bullion and this is the coin I received from an online dealer. It is of cause going back for a full refund. In my judgement, this coin is worse than bullion and it is way under weight.  To me better than bullion means almost uncirculated with minimal wear. 

No expert, but looks very worn. If that was pictured in a sale I would assume that it would be very cheap. No purchase here🤔🤔😮

[Spyder]

15 minutes ago, Petra said:

No expert, but looks very worn. If that was pictured in a sale I would assume that it would be very cheap. No purchase here🤔🤔😮

I would expect to pay no more than spot for a sovereign in this condition.

That is the problem when they put a coin and say photo is not of the coin.  When only proof and uncirculated coins are are classed as better than bullion, this is not the coin one would expect. I think a new starter must have listed this coin as better than bullion. 

 

Will give the the grading results tonight at about 10pm.  Still time for others to give their opinions

Edited January 10 by Spyder

[Spyder]

1 hour ago, Sovhead said:

1899 AU50 imo

The rest all look like proofs from the pics if they aren’t swap PF for MS

2005 PF70

2008 PF68

1995 PF70

oh and see between Victoria and Dei on the 1899 there’s a strange lump.

Good spot. It looks like a extra lump of gold. Checked at NGC and it is there on their photo

[Stuntman]

AU58, PF69, PF69, PF70 would be my guesses.

[SilverJacks]

1899 - AU58

1995 - PF69

2005 - PF70

2008 - PF69

 

Can't tell if there are marks on the holders or the coins. Pretty much flat out guessing with the newer coins.

[refero]

1899 ms62

proofs could be whatever 

[Spyder]

Thanks to all that gave a guess.  Some members were very close. Here are the results. @Stuntman& @SilverJacks, you two were almost spot on.

I use these bags to stop the slabs scratching up.

[SilverJacks]

Be nice to see more grading posts imo

[Sovhead]

38 minutes ago, SilverJacks said:

Be nice to see more grading posts imo

Yep, it wound be to keep us all in that mindset for possible grading.

[Sovhead]

57 minutes ago, Spyder said:

Thanks to all that gave a guess.  Some members were very close. Here are the results. @Stuntman& @SilverJacks, you two were almost spot on.

I use these bags to stop the slabs scratching up.

Crack that 58 out what’s the point of that grade with a veiled Vikky.

[Petra]

11 minutes ago, Sovhead said:

Crack that 58 out what’s the point of that grade with a veiled Vikky.

£100 more than un graded🤔😮

[Sovhead]

Just now, Petra said:

£100 more than un graded🤔😮

Where? Show me….

[Petra]

Just now, Sovhead said:

Where? Show me….

Currently on a dealers site

[Sovhead]

Just now, Petra said:

Currently on a dealers site

Show me sales not asking prices 👍🏻

[Spyder]

44 minutes ago, Sovhead said:

Show me sales not asking prices 👍🏻

Cracked out would sell for £400, as is will get £430-£450

[SidS]

1889 gF.

[Petra]

9 hours ago, Spyder said:

Cracked out would sell for £400, as is will get £430-£450

Dealers cut make that £500😮 Personally prefer no slab. Just wonder about all those hopefuls who break coins out of slabs and then send off hoping for a higher grade🤔😮

[Aldebaran]

11 hours ago, Spyder said:

Thanks to all that gave a guess.  Some members were very close. Here are the results. @Stuntman& @SilverJacks, you two were almost spot on.

I use these bags to stop the slabs scratching up.

@Spyder great coins, the 2005 is my favourite sovereign, closely followed by a 2012.

[Stuntman]

14 hours ago, SidS said:

1889 gF.

I wouldn't even go that high.  F at best for me, and I wouldn't quibble with NF - especially for the obverse.