Fake Silver

[ady]

Having had a play with my new toy the Sigma Verifier have had my thoughts confirmed on some early purchases. Quite pleased in away that my thoughts were correct. But what does one do with such items. I kept as a reminder of my learning curve into new shiny as always had previously bought "junk" and feel this helped me having a feel for silver.

Should these be marked beyond making any doubt, destroyed totally,  or sold on ( only joking!)

I also had a few items confirmed as silver which i would have sworn were fakes, so swings and roundabouts on getting the verifier.

[SilverStorm]

Another Sigma user!   Which one did you get?   I got the Pro Mini.  Let’s talk shop! 😆

You should keep at least 1 fake for educational purposes, so you know how they look like the next time you come across them.

 

Edited June 16, 2021 by SilverStorm

[ady]

33 minutes ago, SilverStorm said:

Another Sigma user!   Which one did you get?   I got the Pro Mini.  Let’s talk shop! 😆

You should keep at least 1 fake for educational purposes, so you know how they look like the next time you come across them.

 

I got the pro. My thought was, I had items that I was dubious about and that if silver does take off in price then the fakes and frauds will also due to the profit to be made. I am hoping not to rely on it over and above my judgement but complimenting it. 

You do have to give some credit to the forgers for keeping us on our toes, look at what Mark Landis got away with.

[LawrenceChard]

12 hours ago, ady said:

Having had a play with my new toy the Sigma Verifier have had my thoughts confirmed on some early purchases. Quite pleased in away that my thoughts were correct. But what does one do with such items. I kept as a reminder of my learning curve into new shiny as always had previously bought "junk" and feel this helped me having a feel for silver.

Should these be marked beyond making any doubt, destroyed totally,  or sold on ( only joking!)

I also had a few items confirmed as silver which i would have sworn were fakes, so swings and roundabouts on getting the verifier.

You could put them on ebay as "Fully Tested and Guaranteed Genuine Fakes" 🙂

[ady]

1 minute ago, LawrenceChard said:

You could put them on ebay as "Fully Tested and Guaranteed Genuine Fakes" 🙂

Just quit ebay, but knowing ebay now they would probably ban the listing for being honest!

[LawrenceChard]

16 minutes ago, ady said:

Just quit ebay, but knowing ebay now they would probably ban the listing for being honest!

Spot on! 🙂

[Darr3nG]

Did you keep a record of where you bought them? It may be an early purchase, but worth contacting the seller...

[rte]

I have a few fakes that I use for reference pieces. 

I ground a V notch in them in an area that doesn't detract from the piece. 

I also have a few American and Mexican silver pieces that stick to a magnet that I haven't carved up yet.

[ady]

21 hours ago, Darr3nG said:

Did you keep a record of where you bought them? It may be an early purchase, but worth contacting the seller...

I have a record of all purchases, but we are talking 20 odd years on theses!

[ady]

6 hours ago, rte said:

I have a few fakes that I use for reference pieces. 

I ground a V notch in them in an area that doesn't detract from the piece. 

I also have a few American and Mexican silver pieces that stick to a magnet that I haven't carved up yet.

Nice idea, thought I might keep them separate as easy decoy for any light fingered folk.

[TommyTwoShots]

Anyone know why the sigma can’t verify 925 spoons?

[SilverStorm]

2 hours ago, TommyTwoShots said:

Anyone know why the sigma can’t verify 925 spoons?

On my pro mini, the tested object must cover the entire inner circle that is displayed on the scanning platform.  If even a little bit is shown, it won’t read properly and throws an arrow to the far right as error.   So as an example, I tested my 1oz 2021 TSF bar and it comes out invalid on the main sensor. But tested valid with a wand.   Perhaps you have a similar issue.

Might be a good idea to create a new thread for Sigma owners.  That way all questions and answers are easier to find for future reference.

 

Edited June 17, 2021 by SilverStorm

[TommyTwoShots]

Thank you, I tried the wand but just throws to the right. Hallmarks are legit 🤷‍♂️

[LawrenceChard]

7 hours ago, ady said:

I have a record of all purchases, but we are talking 20 odd years on theses!

It would still be interesting! ☺️

[LawrenceChard]

54 minutes ago, SilverStorm said:

On my pro mini, the tested object must cover the entire inner circle that is displayed on the scanning platform.  If even a little bit is shown, it won’t read properly and throws an arrow to the far right as error.   So as an example, I tested my 1oz 2021 TSF bar and it comes out invalid on the main sensor. But tested valid with a wand.   Perhaps you have a similar issue.

Might be a good idea to create a new thread for Sigma owners.  That way all questions and answers are easier to find for future reference. 
 

You can't be too careful with those TSF bars! ☺️

[ady]

3 hours ago, TommyTwoShots said:

Anyone know why the sigma can’t verify 925 spoons?

Message info@sigmametalytics.com they are most helpful and answered all my questions