World War 2

[Xander]

History is written by the Victors.  Winston Churchill. 

[Martlet]

1 hour ago, kimchi said:

So you are saying that the Nazis bombed us first without provocation?

I'm saying they started the war.  A state of war existed and things escalate, strategy changes.  Bombing skirmishes to and fro for months before major raids on London began and, fairly, the docks would be a legitimate target as were industrial areas of Germany.  To portray Churchill as the aggressor sounds like revisionism.

[kimchi]

1 minute ago, Martlet said:

I'm saying they started the war.  A state of war existed and things escalate, strategy changes.  Bombing skirmishes to and fro for months before major raids on London began and, fairly, the docks would be a legitimate target as were industrial areas of Germany.  To portray Churchill as the aggressor sounds like revisionism.

Fair enough, they started a war. We however started our war with them, they never wanted a war with us (rightly or wrongly is another question entirely).

Similarly the bombing of major cities only started after WE bombed THEM. We are not talking about skirmishes or tactical targets here, we are talking about who provoked the Blitz - the Germans did not not want to do that.

[Xander]

It was them big bad British wot did it guv...honest! 

[bluemoon]

GB and France gave the ultimatum to Germany that war would commence if they invaded Poland. When Poland got invaded, GB and France did nothing for them. Who knows if GB and France were bluffing and got called out, or if it was a pretence for war like Peter Hitchens claims.

[augur]

@kimchi you were mentioning JFK. For some this might be deep waters, for others still shallow. Some food for thought  if history is rewritten.

Everyone should start to wake up, look at the facts and draw their own conclusions. 

[sixgun]

On 07/09/2018 at 10:18, Roy said:

isn't that 21 years away?

The deliberately engineered 1929 crash was 11 years after WWI. This set the scene for the deliberately engineered Great Depression which culminated in WWII. It just depends how you view things. Perhaps WWII wasn't the start, it was the Crash and this was 11 years later. All these events were engineered. None of the people wanted a war, the boom and then bust in 1929 were created to profit the banks as was the war. WWII was about destroying Germany economically as well as stealing and populating Palestine with Jews. It was nothing to do with Poland. Germany was actually reclaiming West Prussia which was German until a massive number got done of Germany at Versailles.

WWI got the British on the hook, Britain was all done in, Germany had all but won the war. So Balfour promised Palestine to Lord Rothschild. In return the US was brought into WWI which guaranteed victory and this meant Britain got Palestine which had before the war been in the Ottoman Empire. British was not in a position to promise Palestine and then as if by magic Britain was. My view is the Zionists spotted Hitler and financed him. Things were intended to get unpleasant for Jews in Germany to encourage them to leave - the Zionists wanted bodies in Palestine, they are shaping up to establish Israel. The Zionists did a deal with Germany which was the Haavara Agreement where Jews could leave Germany to go to Palestine - the Germans took them there. They could take their worth in German goods and resettle in Palestine. They sell the goods and get the cash. Germany benefits with increased exports and the Zionists get Jews into Palestine.

There is more to the story but when you point this sort of thing out your membership of the Labour party is likely to get terminated. Not that i waste my time with the lame stream parties anyway. They are all crooks. The truth is hate in this post fact unreality.

 

[sixgun]

On 08/09/2018 at 20:48, kimchi said:

Fair enough, they started a war. We however started our war with them, they never wanted a war with us (rightly or wrongly is another question entirely).

Similarly the bombing of major cities only started after WE bombed THEM. We are not talking about skirmishes or tactical targets here, we are talking about who provoked the Blitz - the Germans did not not want to do that.

This is all true. Hitler was very pro-British. He offered peace - let's do business not war. The Blitz was in reality engineered by the traitors in the British establishment. They provoked and provoked Germany into a bombing campaign. There are members here who have told accounts of their families in London having a hard time. Lives lost. Lives ruined. My grandfather was in the London Fire Service at the time dragging roasted bodies from the ruins. Of course we will not hear the full story about why parts of the country were bombed into the Stone Age. If ever the people discover true history rather than His Story many heroes and villains of the past will swap places.