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Also thanks to @whuamai for hooking me up with a german contact who sold this 5 Venezolanos from a spanish source. 


5 Venezolanos = 25 Bolivares/Francs

Nice one!
Those Austrian and Hungarian Florins are very nice to pick up. There are plenty of different years with quite low mintages compared to the most other french francs.
I am trying to gather many different dates, with patience the collection grows over time while paying only fairly small premiums.

Nice one!
Those Austrian and Hungarian Florins are very nice to pick up. There are plenty of different years with quite low mintages compared to the most other french francs.
I am trying to gather many different dates, with patience the collection grows over time while paying only fairly small premiums.

This 1888 is in a pretty good nick considering that the fields wear quite easily due to the flat design and rim

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
 

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
 

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
 

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
 

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
 

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
 

Yea, I have seen it. I really like that channel and he's descriptions are very well done. 

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage
20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage
10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage
 

4 Florins Austria / Hungary, weighing the half of the 8 Florins (20 Francs size and weight)
The Hungarian ones are quite rare and carry a high premium.
The Austrian ones are even rarer and carry very high premiums.
 

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

Just love that Skanderbeg...a hard coin to find no doubt!

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

O wow, no wonder you're keeping these locked away. Thanks for sharing!

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.
Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.
 
20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k
 

 
40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K
40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K
 

 
 
 
20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K
20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down
10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K
20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 
 

And here is the complete date run:

1879/1880 Monnaie de Bruxelles, 1886/1887/1888 Casa de Moneda Caracas 
1904/1905/1910/1911/1912 Monnaie de Paris
 
1879/80 and 1904-12 are alloyed with copper and then pickled, 1886-88 are alloyed with silver and from locally sourced gold (Guyana)
The dies were always made by the Monnaie de Paris; while all coins are reeded, the reeding varies from mint to mint with a finer and slightly higher count in Bruxelles, more of a cogwheel reeding from Paris and a rather rough one from Caracas. (I haven't bothered counting)

The different colours gold can display...
This is indeed an interesting topic and more prevalent in LMU or UML coins than e.g. sovereign or bullion gold. 
Sometimes it has to do with the pickling: all coins below are 0.900 fine gold alloyed with silver

Left Chervonetz ("red coin"), middle and right 20 Mark; during the pickling the superficial copper is dissolved from the planchets using a strong acid (e.g. H2SO4). Depending on duration and strength of the acid the result can vary as seen above. And while it looks as if there were no UML coins on the picture, the 20 Mark are most likely made from French Francs (reparations from the Franco-Prussian War 1870). 
 
The other options is to alter the gold tone more yellow is to use silver in the alloy as in the 1887 Jubilee Sovereigns. In the few years the Mint in Caracas was operating, Venezuela did exactly this with its gold coins.

the two left coins were minted in Paris and Bruxelles respectively and show the effect of pickling nicely while the two right Ines were minted in Caracas with gold from Guyana, the traces of arsenic in the gold give the greenish tint.