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29 minutes ago, AppleZippoandMetronome said:

There was no limit at all that I could see early on.

I tried to add 3 at 9:10 and it kicked me down to one. 

4 minutes ago, goldmember44 said:

"Currently reserved" but you can still add it to your basket... first time I see a status like that, must be a glitch or something.

That happened on the silver Una but you couldn't actually complete the purchase. 

13 minutes ago, goldmember44 said:

Coin Connection doesn't seem to have it on their site. Maybe the mintage was too low to distribute to dealers... ?

They might be waiting for a sellout and then upload at a higher price. 

8 minutes ago, Kman said:

 

Yep very true, also RM might decide to double mintage seeing the success 🙄

Indeed. I'd guess a minimum of 300 gold but could be up to 500.

4 minutes ago, Oldun said:

Saw one for sale yesterday. They are out there, somewhere.

Interesting. Perhaps the mint sold them abroad.

55 minutes ago, Kman said:

Especially the engraver series, depending what designs they do next

You can almost guarantee them selling out quickly with people hoping they will match the Una 

Definitely a full sell out. However, they may well be disappointed. All depends on the coin they go for, e.g. a gothic crown won't exceed the price of the original. £4000 should get you one in great condition.

22 minutes ago, Paul said:

If they were getting charged the full ebay listing fees of 10% sale price typically it would make them think twice on items of £20k - £30k

I assume that if they cancel the sale or 'return' the coin then these aren't payable. This might account for one or two sales but there have been quite a few now. Should know once the feedback appears. 

2 hours ago, Frenchie said:

I hope  no,  what makes it great is it's uniqueness, Creating a new iteration would only dilute it . Moreover, the 1oz would be probably more flat as there would be maybe not enough "material" in order to create this beautiful high relief we have with the 2 oz

I believe there is meant to be a 5oz £10,000 version but I've not heard anymore about it since the first press release. RM might have decided that it's too much effort given the minting issues. 

18 minutes ago, Paul said:

£24,600 end bid

 

Nice little earner. 

2 hours ago, Frenchie said:

Graded 70 Silver Unas seem to do very well... around 800€. 

Of course the RM is a business company and they want to make money as any companies. They can try to find ways to get more money playing with hype, but they are not stupid as they know how to keep a product "unique" without shooting themself in the foot.  If they release a second batch of Unas, they would kill what makes it so special and unique then kill the confidence. 

There has been a lot of special designs, and I don't see any new release of specials  Sovereigns (1989, 2017...) or Britannias (2014...) despite the hype for these designs. 

Anyway if they would do it one time, they would not do it twice.

 

 

I agree to an extent but look at the Kew Gardens 50p. I don't think RM are likely to issue more anytime soon but, as I said earlier, a 2039 release seems likely. They can also sell the die to British Virgin Islands etc. 

I wouldn't be surprised if they realised a full Great Engravers set at the end as well but with a later year date. Remember that originally the website had 20 gold and silver held back. This only changed once they started selling like hotcakes. 

3 minutes ago, Paul said:

Royal Mint may be reading this thread  .............sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !  dont give them any ideas

The overseas territories and crown dependencies will start minting more to meet demand. I'm sure RM will do a big 2039 release if the interest is still there. 

I expect that the next coin in the series will have a bigger gold release. 

3 hours ago, Paul said:

Bidding at £17,800 with 5 days left to run, and x78 watches on it . 

Will be interesting to see what the one with Andreas at Coin Cabinet's auction realises in its next auction later in the month that @AndrewSL76 hightlighted up yesterday

Definitely. Bidders have several ungraded sales on ebay to guide them now. Still holding out or tempted to sell?

56 minutes ago, Melon said:

Most of the people commenting don't have one, so lets not dismiss their views as "getting excited with all the profits"... 

As has been explained multiple times now, it doesn't really look like shill bidding at all. It just looks like bidding.

Just because you and I wouldn't buy something for £20k on eBay doesn't mean nobody would. Where else can someone buy it? eBay buyer protection is top notch though, I'd be more worried selling through eBay. 

 

Indeed. I'm amazed that people will pay that for a copy which RM might just reissue in years to come - Kew Gardens! - but it only takes one or two with the spare cash. 

I'd just like to see some physical auctions or second hand ones up with dealers.

10 minutes ago, Numistacker said:

Its probably now in the post to them and not all have yet been posted by RM.  I cant see what is more real about Baldwin or Spink. The have a 20+% BP so the only real thing is at least 20% higher costs to the buyer )))  My guess is that this auction will end at over £20k. This one looks to be a genuine seller who sells coins often on ebay. 

Fair point. Personally I wouldn't buy anything like that ungraded and unseen on ebay but that's just me. 

I'm guessing that a Baldwin/Spink auction is a bit harder to cancel/refund than ebay. 

4 hours ago, Paul said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Una-and-the-Lion-2019-UK-2oz-Gold-Proof-Coin-Limited-Edition-225-Very-Rare/303441903449?hash=item46a68bff59:g:1tAAAOSw64ZeGlia

Another new gold Una & Lion has appeared on auction on FleaBay UK 

Start Bid £13,500

Lets hope this is a natural auction with no jiggerypokery going on with this one to meddle with the price 

9 days of analysis, discussions, shouts and rants to follow now, so thatll keep this Una thread alive !   

 

Seller says that it's COA 5. Based on that they must have it in hand but are only using stock images... 

All of this looks like an attempt to 'lock in' a high price point before listing an actual coin. 

As far as I'm concerned I'll only accept an open market price when some have been sold at real auctions - Baldwin, Spink etc

1 hour ago, Paul said:

I would also feel a little daunted selling such a valuable item through eBay auction, given its open to exploitation by one sided buyer listing policies.  It would have to be a cash deal in person

Exactly. There was a common scam a few years ago where someone paid through PayPal and arranged to collect, someone turned up but ten minutes later the 'real' buyer arrived and then claimed a PayPal refund. 100% has to be cash on collection.

1 hour ago, Paul said:

A bit Christmas daftness, what do people think bidding will end at on the auction?

on another note a new Gold Una listing has just popped up on eBay.co.uk  for an what almost seems "reasonable" compared to others prices - £18k on buy it now, no best offer option 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Una-and-the-Lion-2019-UK-2oz-Gold-Proof-Coin-Limited-Edition-225/293393164065?hash=item444f986721:g:R64AAOSwfcNeAg65

It's going to be interesting to see if the auction reaches £18,000! Bidders have a fair bit of feedback so it seems legit. 

12 minutes ago, Paul said:

 thank you - if a gold "gothic crown" with the same mintage, weight & deep details comes out in the series 

My gut feels this will be a winner for the long term 

The next coin in the Great Engravers series will be very interesting in 2020

A Gothic Crown would be great but I assume it will be a different engraver for the next coin. 

1 hour ago, Paul said:

i found this on eBay.com Alderney issue £5 2019 Una & Lion issue - they are sprouting up all over ! 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Alderney-UK-5-Pounds-1-17-Gold-PCGS-PR70DCAM-Una-and-The-Lion-Mintage-400/223792604424?hash=item341b142508:g:-Z0AAOSwncJd9BoW

$9,9999 / £7,659 GBP

 

Yes, people seem to have missed that release. The sovereign version is still available. I believe it was struck by RM just like the East India Company. 

If the prices stated are being actually achieved then in my view its seems like hype. I can understand a doubling in price but those are crazy. That said it only takes a few bankers with a bonus to drive prices given the low mintage. 

3 hours ago, Melon said:

Got the silver one from RM just now. Finally! 😁

£170 with the discount. Think it was the only one as back out of stock. Shows it’s worth checking daily though. 

Now I’ve got to decide what I bought this random silver coin for, I blame the silver forum!! 😂

Loitering on the RM site paid off! I think I'll stick mine in the display cabinet so I can enjoy it. If it gets nicked my insurance will cover getting a new one, unlike the gold.... 

41 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

I have received 2 silver Unas from the RM, bought at a discounted 150£  . At first sight, they seem flawless,  I will check with a magnifer however. 

For those waiting these Unas, try to be cautious wihen you'll open the box : the capsules for both coin were opened 

I like the subtle "soft" frost on Una and the Lion,  it seems slightly glossy. On the obverse, the frost on the Queen is "standard" and mat.
Nice relief too, I would say that this coin is more beautiful in hand than photos

I hope to be able to capture this  with pictures later.

I am waiting now for my gold Una, praying it will be flawless too

   

 

Nice price! I looked fairly obsessively and I didn't see it below £180.

3 minutes ago, silverdocket said:

Where?? Link???

thanks 

At the Royal Mint. Unfortunately it's gone out of stock again. I think Westminster Collection and Coin Connection still have them. 

Silver back again if anyone is still after one. 

On 15/12/2019 at 19:16, Melon said:

Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to pass though. Not a fan of handing out details on this stuff via eBay personally. Just a bit frustrating to type in the discount code into my basket on CC and find the basket price go up 20 quid not down! 😂

Bit of an impulse buy anyway, I don't even own a single silver coin 😅

 

Silver back at the mint. You can save £10 with code NEW10

Picked up my silver. Truely stunning coin. 

Does anyone know when the £10k 5oz gold is coming out?