sovereignsteve

Experience handling lots of slabbed coins is the best way but there have been tips online and comarisons between the two. problem is those fiendishly clever people in China are continually improving their craft. First step would be to check the number on the PCGS or NGC website and have a look at the photo if there is one. It is usually possible to spot any obvious differences between a fake and the real photo. Next would be to weigh it and compare with a known genuine article, this larger the coin the better. It would actually be useful to build up a database here on TSF of weights of various slabbed coins.

"How to price a coins's value"? Good question - depends on lots of things, not least are you a buyer or seller? If latter, how quickly do you want to sell, how many do you want to sell etc? Simple answer; don't take any notice of BBP! Selling price of these on Ebay is around £ 35 On the forum? These days probably a couple of pounds north of spot😄

damn saw this 10 sec too late

1 million shared between the 2 types

They do or did give a guarantee of some sorts in connection to any errors they make. It could be if they falsely grade a counterfeit rather than this situation. Would be interesting to challenge them on this though, seeing as someone who bought based on their label will have suffered loss.

To my eyes the dies look the same, just differences in frosting and slight colour. Both equally beautiful.

Thanks for the sentiment but apparently you got it wrong😆

Anyone know and prepared to say?

Ah I misunderstood! doh

As far as I am aware they do this already

No that is harsh IMHO. The reverse is gVF for the detail but there are dings/marks and the field is marked. The obverse is a little worse obviously but still falls in the VF range on wear but the field is pretty bad. On detail wear this coin is a AU55 IMO but previously said, NGC put a lot of emphasis on the field.

I've had ones that I would say are EF/gEF come back as AU55 and re-graded at PCGS at 60/61

You might say that 😆 but NGC really infuriate me with their inconsistant grading of shields.

Indeed, it's clearly there. However, the higher the number on the label the better it is from the market's viewpoint😉

Thanks, reverse much better

Funnily enough I used to be the same. I have decided it's because it's difficult to find really good examples and when you do, you pay through the nose. Like the Jub heads, a really good example of the Veiled, is extremely attractive IMHO

Not trying to be funny or p***sing on anyone's bonfire, but I think AU55 for your medal allign 1872M is incredibly generous. What's the reverse look like?

repeat several times😉

no afraid not

Of course. If they learn from insurance companies it's a new ballgame.

It could be interesting to see how the RM develop with regards to their insurance T&C and also the way they deal with claims in general. This in light of their current predicament; I believe they lost some staggering figure last year, in the 100's of millions of pounds. A tightening of contract terms along with hiring a few insurance loss adjusters would probably do wonders for their bottom line.

The problem with the Jubilee head coins is that they seem to wear easily and the design definitely doesn't take it well. On the other hand, a Jubilee in top condition is an absolute joy to behold; the detail can be astounding. Jubs are also very popular because there are so many variations in just a few number of years. The shield series obviously speaks for itself but the G&D young heads are quite boring in reality with just the odd length of tail variation to create interest.

Regarding the suggestion that the RM will pay out the current market value at the time of loss. I have never seen this in the T&C but I can comment on my experience with claims over the last couple of years. From sales on ebay I have had to claim roughly half a dozen times for coins going missing in the post. Yes I find that number unbelievable too but this is ebay remember😉 Each time all I did was screenshot the ebay sale invoice along with proof of postage. All cases were showing "not delivered" in RM tracking, although I suspect from the buyer's attitudes that most were actually delivered but not scanned as such. They paid out instantly the full sales price plus the postage cost, no quibble. I can't believe they are ever going to get into a situation where they have someone scouring the dealers, auction houses and ebay for current prices. Maybe for the higher value claims but not the vast majority.

Does this hold if the seller actually buys the shipping even if the buyer actually pays the charge to the seller?