Marsh 2019 sovs MIA?

[Simonz]

Is the portrait different between shield back and St. George Victoria young heads?

Marsh p.104 says "Although William Wyon died in 1851 his Young head bust of the Queen was kept for the new sovereign."

See attached comparison between 1860 and 1880 examples.

[Petra]

It may appear that there are some slight differences, how many coins have you compared? I know nothing about this sort of thing, but could any slight differences be how the coin has been struck?

[Simonz]

Haven't compared many, I'm sure one of the experts will know?

[sovereignsteve]

They were always re-engraving the portrait and reverse for new dies. It happened quite often, not annually by any means but often enough for people to notice and for the differences to be documented. There is still the odd difference cropping up from time to time.

[westminstrel]

On 05/02/2023 at 12:43, Simonz said:

Is the portrait different between shield back and St. George Victoria young heads?

Marsh p.104 says "Although William Wyon died in 1851 his Young head bust of the Queen was kept for the new sovereign."

See attached comparison between 1860 and 1880 examples.

Indeed there are several variations of the YH portrait. Some have subtle differences while other are more prominent.

[GoldDiggerDave]

On 05/02/2023 at 07:13, Simonz said:

Is the portrait different between shield back and St. George Victoria young heads?

Marsh p.104 says "Although William Wyon died in 1851 his Young head bust of the Queen was kept for the new sovereign."

See attached comparison between 1860 and 1880 examples.

It’s just short tail……..short ponytail😁

There are several differences in the two portraits you are showing the mouth and hair.  It’s very interesting you pointed this out I’ll have a look, thanks for sharing! 

[Simonz]

12 hours ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

It’s just short tail……..short ponytail😁

There are several differences in the two portraits you are showing the mouth and hair.  It’s very interesting you pointed this out I’ll have a look, thanks for sharing! 

Thanks guys, trying to get all the different heads of which I'm thinking there are 5 for Victoria? Type 1A, 1B, Australia, Jubilee, Old? I know there's are different reverse young heads with the shield and St. George, but wondered if the obverse was 'different enough' to warrant a 6th head?

[GoldDiggerDave]

13 minutes ago, Simonz said:

Thanks guys, trying to get all the different heads of which I'm thinking there are 5 for Victoria? Type 1A, 1B, Australia, Jubilee, Old? I know there's are different reverse young heads with the shield and St. George, but wondered if the obverse was 'different enough' to warrant a 6th head?

DISH did a whole series of Jubilee varieties just based on the 1st or 2nd legend combined with the variations/orientations of JEB.