Seth

37 minutes ago, Chorlton said:

Go on give us the exact dates for Just this once 😁

September 31st at precisely 09:17.328764309653 am, GMT of course. So don't you come crawling back here saying nobody warned you, and gave you plenty of advance notice.

1 minute ago, LawrenceChard said:

I guess I should have added a "smile" emoji after it. I might have done if you were American!

But where would the fun in that have been?

On 19/05/2020 at 20:29, LawrenceChard said:

 

The fingerprints idea was not true at all, simply my sense of humour. Sorry about that!

 

Good one, you got me, you had me spending a good day or two trawling through your website, various other bullion dealers websites, and searching through the internet using every possible phrase I could think of looking for those so called ''very rare versions with a Freddie Mercury or Spike Edney fingerprint'' - I did however come across a very very nice silver Queen  coin that uses the Album cover from Queen II on one side of the coin and their logo/emblem on the other side.

Nice one, I take my hat off to you sir, you played me well.

54 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

That's a very good point Seth.

I had never compared the gold and silver versions directly, but yes the silver bullion ones look better than the gold ones. I need to check whether our Doug did anything bad in processing the gold ones, but probably not, because he is good, and often points out interesting features to us that we had not yet noticed.

Would you be interested in the very rare version with a Freddie Mercury or Spike Edney fingerprint?

If you do decide to compare the gold and silver versions directly I'd be very interested to hear whether you agree with my opinion regarding the frosted piano keys, and if so do you think that the difficulties in seeing the frosted keys on the gold version could be down to the material as in gold being softer than silver it will be harder to get the finer details of the coin design onto a gold coin or is it perhaps due to nothing more than the colour of the coin, as for the very rare version with a Freddie Mercury or Spike Edney fingerprint - I've never heard of these versions, I'd need to know more about them before I'd know if I'm interested or not in them, things like price, mintage, and what they look like.  The music junky in me is screaming take my money, but the little bit of sanity I have says I need to learn a little bit more about these very rare versions with a Freddie Mercury or Spike Edney fingerprint before I could commit, I'm guessing that these will have a very very decent premium.

On 12/05/2020 at 14:16, LawrenceChard said:

We just bought some more of the Queen one ounce coins gold bullion version:

Originally, we only bought a few as we thought they were slightly too expensive as a bullion coin.

Hopefully, these might arrive with us in about a week.

I bought a few  of these gold Queen bullion coins, as well as some of the silver versions, I didn't buy any of the gold gilded silver Queen coins - I think gilded coins look cheap and tackey, and I have to say that from an asthetic point of view, in my opinion, the silver Queen bullion coins look far far nicer, these coins are meant to show the chord progression of ''Bohemian Rhapsody'' on  the piano keys - D, F, G for those of you inerested, by ''frosting'' those three notes on the piano, this can clearly be seen on the silver bullion version of this coin, even from a few feet away - yes it's that obvious on the silver bullion version, yet on the gold version the three ''frosted'' piano keys are next to impossible to make out even holding the coin a few inches from your face, it's a real shame in my opinion, it's as if they put far more effort into the minting of the silver bullion version of this coin than they did the gold version and just assumed that ''gold Queen coin'' was good enough, as apposed to putting the extra effort into geting the finer details of the design right on the gold version.  Even the good picture @LawrenceChard posted of the gold version of the coin shows that it's very very hard to notice the frosted D, F, and G keys unless you know what your looking for and where to look, and that's afer the photo which was taken by somebody who knows how to and is good at photographing coins has photographed this coin using professional equipment set up for photographing coins in an environment suited to photographing coins and has then run the unedited photograph through photoshop, tweaked, highlighted, played with contrasts played with even colour saturation and hue, if you can barely make the frosted keys out after all that post photo editing, imagine what the details in this coin looks like, or doesn't, without all the photoshop enhanchments.

30 minutes ago, Paul said:

Personally I think you are on pretty safe ground holding the 2oz proof long term. Supply vs demand

Once these disspear into a Queen collector collection, that is in their collection for the duration

A Queen collector will seek to get ask many as they can, where possible 

2oz of silver is feasible price for a none stacker, Queen collector.  How many would be prepared to stump up £4k plus for the limted 2oz gold edition ?  many less.  But try as they will they will try to plug getting every one they can

It will be the most limted numbers that will hold their premium long term  

Even with all the dispatched email, theres only x2 available on fleabay in secondary market.  Think folk are HODL'ing these.  Im keeping mine

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClxOwmUAUpKwavdSG71-jMw/videos

 

 

I wouldn't exactly call him a ''super fan'' most of his collection is made up of replicas, and as for his ''red special'' he bought the second cheapest model available which when they where reintroduced around 2014 they retailed for less than £400.00 - two previous companies made them before Brian May and his guitar tech reintroduced them with their own company, the one hat's closest o Brian May plays retails for around £2500.00.

Just now, AndrewSL76 said:

Seth, if they release a ‘Taken’ coin, you’re in trouble. A world of pain awaits.

I don't think so, how many times now has Liam Neeson had his daugher kidnapped now 6 or 7 times now?  I'm extremely surprised that the child protection services haven't pulled him aside to have a word with him about his parenting skills after the second time, and extremely surprised that they didn't take the child off of him after the third time for the child's own protection and safety, even Mr Bean managed to keep a child safe.

2 minutes ago, AndrewSL76 said:

Will this also work with Daniel Craig?

I don't know, is there any animals he's very fond of and has campaigned on behalf of, if not, you could always just replace the badger with one of Daniel Craig's kids and basically follow the same script, though I'm pretty sure the penalities should you get caugh would be a lot worse.  To me personally getting Daniel Craig to sign a C.O.A. is not worh that much hassle and prison time, though you never know, his kids could turn out to right little buggers and he could turn the tables on you and consider it a huge favour and refuse to sign your C.O.A. so that you end up stuck with and responsible for his kids, truly a double edged sword if ever there was one.

On 26/02/2020 at 18:20, goldmember44 said:

How do I get Brian May to sign my 2oz COA? Could increase its value a lot...

To me this is too much effort:

On 26/02/2020 at 18:37, Paul said:

Pop a mail to Brian's personal secretary Julie Glover, 

"DUCK PRODUCTIONS LIMITED" is Brian Mays personal prodcution company

7 Savoy Court, London, WC2R 0EX

you can also get to Brian the sneaky way, by using his wife Anita Dobson fan club (much more smaller fan base) Anita is super receptive to fan mail

carole white runs the offical Anita fan club
11 Suez Road
Cambridge. Cambridgeshire
CB1 3QB

And so is this:

On 26/02/2020 at 18:42, Paul said:

http://www.fanmail.biz/11131.html

http://www.fanmail.biz/51065.html

you also have the ption of the offical Queen fan club but you may wait ages and ages for obvious reasons

Personally I would go about getting him to sign my C.O.A. in a different way:

I'd first go out and catch myself a badger - be careful they're grumpy little buggers, preferably a very photogenic example of the species, the more photogenic it is the better.  Then I'd make a film of myself threatening the little beast, the more convincing you can make this look the better, so don't be afraid to break out the steak knife to hold against the animals throat, I'd film myself - obvioulsy hiding my facial features, looking directly into the camera, and saying in a slow, clear, calm, controlled and even tone saying, ''Brian May, if you don't sign my Queen coin certificate of authenticity, I'll skin this badger alive'', I would then put down the knife, and start stroking the beast making sure that I make lots of eye contact with it, then look back up directly at the camera and again in a slow, clear, calm, controlled and even tone say, ''Brian May, only you can save this magnificent animal's life, all you have to do is to send me an email [this is where I would have a burner encrypted email account like hushmail appear on the screen], with an address to send you my certificate of authenticity to, and I will then send you my certificate of authenticity as well as my address so you can send it back to me, once you have signed it.  Once I have received my signed certificate of authenticity, I will set the badger free, and upload a proof of life and release video, should you involve the authorities, I will skin the beast alive, and leave it to run around naked'', remember slow, clear, calm, controlled and even tone, you don't want to come across as a nut job, nor do you want to come across as somebody unwilling or unable to go through with it, you want to come across as somebody who is capable of doing i without breaking a sweat or losing a minutes sleep over it.  I would then upload this video to Youtube/FaceBook/Twitter and every video hosting site/social media/social network site that I can think of sit back and wait for it to go viral, which it will.  Brian May havining the soft spot for badgers that he does will reply to your video within hours.  Now here comes the tricky part, for obvious reasons you don't want to give Brian May your real address, you'll want to give him the address of somebody who's property you not only have access to, but more importantly thinks you really like them, your mother in law fills this need perefectly, they were practically invented for this, so when you send Brian May your certificate of authenticity to sign, send him your mother in law's address to post it back to you singed.

Remember this is just a hypothetical suggestion, I'm not advocating that you go out and capture - snare traps work best by the way, a badger, yet alone use it too blackmail Brian May into signing your C.O.A. for you.

11 minutes ago, wolfiemac said:

Aye i was just joking..........  I was lucky working in TV when younger and getting a job working on The Tube on Channel 4, I worked at Tyne Tees on city road in Newcastle... So i've seen my fair share of good singers. 

They've become a dying bread, hell the last U.K. tour I was employed for people actually complained about the quality of the lip syncing, not about the fact that they were  lip syncing instead of actually singing - which they couldn't do to save their lives, but the fact that they where bad a it, people were actually demanding refunds because of how bad the lip syncing was, personally I'd demand a refund for lip syncing I don't care how good they are at miming.  Yeh, auto tune, and elastic time has done a lot to damage my industry, I blame Pro Tools.

A serious suggestion for who I'd think would be great to have on a coin, The Pet Shop Boys

6 hours ago, wolfiemac said:

Beatles and Elton John I recon.

Then Milli Vanilli 😂😂

Did you take your copy of Mili Vanilli back for a refund since it turned out that they weren't actually singing and just lip syncing, so anybody who bought their album was entitled to return it for a full refund due to false adverising, and they were stripped of all the awards that they won - I'm serious about this.  I find it funny though how lip syncing destroyed Mili Vanilli's careers, even now the one who is still alive can not get back into the music business and he can actually sing and has a great voice because of the lip syncing controversy over their album and live preformances.  Yet today, people like the Spice Girls, Lilly Allen, the Pussycay Dolls and many many others would be unknows and have never been able to release an album yet alone been allowed near a recordind studio if it wasn't for lip syncing.

13 hours ago, kimchi said:

@Seth very interesting insight, a good read, though sad to hear all of the troubles between bands and various members. I agree on The Who and you are likely right for Led Zepp but I otherwise think/hope you might be quite nicely surprised on one or two others!

I don't know about that, another reason why I highly doubt that there will be a Beatles, Led Zepplin, The Rolling Stones, Tho Who, or a Pink Floyd coin, is that besides being Brittish, Queen and Elton John have something else in common, they've both had movies recently made and released about them.  I don't know of any up coming movies about The Beatles, Led Zepplin, The Rolling Stones  - though there is already a movie out about them called Stoned Jagger really didn't like it nor did he give it his approval or any contribution due to the fact that Jones was given the credit he deserves as being the founder of The Rolling Stones, Tho Who, or Pink Floyd, or even any movies about them being in the works, script writing phase, casting, location scouting, pre production, yet alone filming or in post production almost ready to be released.  I think I might have heard somithing about a film on David Bowie being made at some point in the future, I'm not sure though, it could of been an idea I heard floationg around, and I can't remember where I heard it, though to me it seems quite likely given that his son Duncan Jones is a very successful film director - he doesn't use his fathers surname Bowie, he wanted to make it in the world off of his own skill and talent and not cash in on his father's name and connections so he uses his father's original surname, David Bowie stopped going by he name David Jones so as not to be confused with David Jones from the band The Monkees otherwise known as ''The Plastic Beatles''.

2 hours ago, MancunianStacker said:

Single name artists will be easier. Tom Jones from Wales, The Proclaimers (😂) from Scotland And Van Morrison from Northern Ireland! 

And I would walk 500 miles to not see a Proclaimers - AKA The Dodgey Ginger Twins, coin.  Though The Corries, the Scottish folk band who wrote Flower of Scotland - that song is nowhere near as old as most people think it was writen in the mid to late 60's, would be an interesting choice for Scotland, though I can understand why they wouldn't be chosen, because of Flower of Scotland - just listen to or read the lyrics.  The Humblebums, the Scottish folk band Billy Connolly and Gerry Rafferty were in before they went their seperate ways, Billy Connolly to become a standup comedian, and Gerry Rafferty to continue with his musical career, would also be an interesting choice for Scotland, though I suspect that The Humblebums are far too obscure and too few people even know about them, yet alone that Billy Connolly and Gerry Rafferty actually started their careers in a Scottish folk band except for music junkies like myself, as Billy Connolly described why they broke up, ''the jokes got longer, and the songs got shorter''.

Van Morrison, especially his collaboration with the Irish folk band The Chieftains, would make an excellant coin choice for Northern Ireland, especially if they somehow incorporated the song ''Irish Heartbeat'' into somehow, perhaps having the line, ''Stay a while with your own ones'' on the inner circumference of the coin.

8 hours ago, Paul said:

we saw Elton John named on Gazette page for a new coin comes out this year, so you can maybe expect your big names of UK music Beatles, Stones, The Who, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and a token offering for the ladies to save the PC backlash from feminists & "all white males of society are evil & need to be killed" leaning lefty crew , so probably a Spice Girls coin to 

I honestly can't see even a third of the bands you have mentioned allowing the Royal Mint to issue coins with their logos or representations on them.  Take The Beatles for example Yoko is currently fighting several lawsuits with John Lennon's children over his legacy, use of likeness, and dozens of other things, and not just by his first son Julian, but also the son he had with Yoko, Sean.  Then there is also the current hassle that Yoko is causing Ringo and Paul, after Ringo had found the tape of a song John Lennon was working on but was murdered before he finished it.  Lennon actually sent Ringo the tape asking for his input and collaboration on it, but John Lennon was murded, Ringo put it away being unable to deal with listening to the last thing one of his best friends was working on in it's raw unfinished format just before he was murdered, and over the years as time went by he forget about it and where he stored the tape for safe keeping, he recently found the tape not too long ago, got in touch with Paul, and the last two surviving Beatles finished the song - as per John Lennon's wishes for Ringo to help him with it and collaborate wih him on it, and Ringo released the song on his latest album, Yoko's still in the process of taking Ringo, and Paul to court over this.

As for The Who, given Pete Townshends legal issues from not too long ago  - remember that research he was doing for a book he was working on that never materalised, or his so called prevention program, Keith Moon's daughter Amanda would be very against it due to her fathers notorious behaviour, antics and stance, she's very protective over his legacy and wouldn't allow anything that would even slighly tarnish his antiestablishment reputation, Entwistle originally left The Who on very very unfriendly terms, he was very reluctingly dragged into preforming wih them again shortly before his death in 2001, he died in 2002, Daltrey is the only one I could see allowing it to be done, but he is very very protecive over his image, so he would want to practically design the coin himself just incase they used something he didn't consider flattering enough.

As for Led Zepplin, just look at the reason why they broke up, and other than their disastrous preformance in Philadelphia with Phil Collins on drums - it was the American version of Bob Geldof's and Midge Ure's Live Aid Phil Collins preformed first at Wembley Stadium before being jetted off on a charered concorde flight to preform with Led Zepplin in Philadelphia until recently as in until Youtube took off it was impossible to see this preformance unless you where there it was never released on VHS, Laser Disc, DVD... it was that bad Paige and Plant did everything that they could to prevent it's release even Phil Collins called the preformance an absolute nightmare and disaster, and a few gigs - not even a full tour tour with Bonham's son on drums have refused to play as or reform Led Zepplin - they would be nothing more than a cover band constently playing songs they wrote in their heyday and would never be allowed to play, write or record any new material, Paige actually stated that was the reason for retiring Led Zepplin, not just the death of the irreplaceable Bonham.

There are also los of reason's why I can't see the Rolling Stones allowing it to happen - how many people here can even name their drummer, piano player or bass player without using Professor Google.  Watts was replaced until recently, and people don't know these musicians and a host of other musicians who where with the Rolling Stones at the start and who have been replaced by either temps or new full time members over the years.  There is a reason why the focus is purely on Jagger, Richards and Wood, Jones has been practically written ou of the Rolling Stones history - something that really really upset Wyman especially when the blue plaque commemorating the forming of the Rolling Stones was put up at that train station hell he even walked out on the Stones decades ago, yet I bet nobady here can name who eventually became his full time replacement without the help of Professor Googlde, and there have literally been dozens of temp replacements, before they finally settled on a full time replacement and he gets no publicity

I can also see dozens of reasons hy I can't see Pink Floyd allowing it to happen, especially coming from the Barrett estate.  Gilmore, and Walters wouldn't let him leave the band, he was even begging to leave Pink Floyd, he had to force his way out by writting a song - I think it was called ''Have You Got It Yet'', that was so complex and kept changing that it couldn't be finished yet alone recorded before Gilmore and Walters finally got the hint that Barrett wanted nothing more to do with the band, and that if they wouldn't let him leave, he'd take the entire band down with him.

As a self confessed music junkie and a huge Stones, Zepplin and Beatles fan, I'd love to see these coins happening, christ knows that I've spent a fortune over the years on instruments and items actually used by these bands, but I can't see it happening.