Expat

The VAT issue in Europe is a shame, that would be a serious no-go for me. You all need to be more assertive about not wanting to pay taxes - in particular - to the British government. I recall that we wrote a pretty strongly worded letter to them about the subject back in 1776, and they've pretty much left us alone since then.     
But BTT, overall, I think Platinum is cheap, and most people only look at the industrial use in ICE (Diesel) catalytic converters. There are so many more applications in scientific instruments, health care, computer parts, etc. And that's not even thinking about future applications. Don't look at it necessarily like a store of value, it's more a gamble on GDP growth and the industrial sector of the worldwide economies performing well. And while (I think) it's 4 x as rare as gold, it trades at half the price ... I had to get some.
I purchased 30 oz in coins in June and July, and 4 oz in assay cards today. Spot at $869 plus 3% premium. I just couldn't say "no" to that, and now I have over one kg in the box.
Let's see how it reacts to the Fed's interest rate decision and GDP numbers this week...........

The VAT issue in Europe is a shame, that would be a serious no-go for me. You all need to be more assertive about not wanting to pay taxes - in particular - to the British government. I recall that we wrote a pretty strongly worded letter to them about the subject back in 1776, and they've pretty much left us alone since then.     
But BTT, overall, I think Platinum is cheap, and most people only look at the industrial use in ICE (Diesel) catalytic converters. There are so many more applications in scientific instruments, health care, computer parts, etc. And that's not even thinking about future applications. Don't look at it necessarily like a store of value, it's more a gamble on GDP growth and the industrial sector of the worldwide economies performing well. And while (I think) it's 4 x as rare as gold, it trades at half the price ... I had to get some.
I purchased 30 oz in coins in June and July, and 4 oz in assay cards today. Spot at $869 plus 3% premium. I just couldn't say "no" to that, and now I have over one kg in the box.
Let's see how it reacts to the Fed's interest rate decision and GDP numbers this week...........

Beauty!
Poor Paul is looking less dignified in every iteration of the coin, nearing a Pinocchio like nose and Gordon Gecko like wet gel hair... also, his beard seems to be moving towards uniting with his chest hair...
Of course, reported.

Beauty!
Poor Paul is looking less dignified in every iteration of the coin, nearing a Pinocchio like nose and Gordon Gecko like wet gel hair... also, his beard seems to be moving towards uniting with his chest hair...
Of course, reported.

Reported - let's try again.

Reported - let's try again.

Reported - let's try again.

They did internally annotate the auction with my objection. So the high value claims group will have an easier time to side with the buyer when it comes to resolution. Let's hope that the buyer figures out that they are fake (he should).
Pretty disappointing.

So as I thought... They're just letting it go and leaving it down to the buyer to complain before taking action. Very disappointing. 

They did internally annotate the auction with my objection. So the high value claims group will have an easier time to side with the buyer when it comes to resolution. Let's hope that the buyer figures out that they are fake (he should).
Pretty disappointing.

They did internally annotate the auction with my objection. So the high value claims group will have an easier time to side with the buyer when it comes to resolution. Let's hope that the buyer figures out that they are fake (he should).
Pretty disappointing.

They did internally annotate the auction with my objection. So the high value claims group will have an easier time to side with the buyer when it comes to resolution. Let's hope that the buyer figures out that they are fake (he should).
Pretty disappointing.

This is so frustrating. I myself narrowly escaped a $10,000 loss on an eBay transaction a couple of weeks back by invoking the eBay Guarantee for lost/stolen objects, but I still had a couple of sleepless nights.
Now I am trying to protect someone from getting burned, but it sounds to me that the auction will run its course and they will deal with the fallout later. I actually took the time to chat with eBay about it. If you are interested read below:
 
2022 - 08 - 01
 
08:27:19 UTC EBay Agent  
I see here that you are having an issue/concern regarding an auction , I will be more than happy to help you.
08:30:27 UTC member Expat
. I am a coin collector and this guy is trying to sell three totally fake Krugerrands. They are so bad, they could be from a chewing gum machine. Absolutely 100% FAKE. He is trying to scam someone out of almost $3000 and it's not going to end well. A lot of people have reported this auction again and again over the last week, but eBay has not reacted at all. Now the auction is coming to an end and a buyer will get majorly screwed
08:30:52 UTC EBay Agent  
I see, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, so that we can deal with this immediately.
08:34:01 UTC member Expat
Sure. We are just trying to protect a bidder and keep eBay clean for all of us.
08:34:31 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you, and I apprecaite you for reaching out to us regarding this.
08:34:52 UTC EBay Agent  
Since you mentioned you already reported this, rest assured that action will be taken.
08:34:55 UTC EBay Agent  
We are working hard on identifying, reporting, and removing listings that violate our policies from our site. All of this, in order for our members to feel safe and continue to trust eBay with their online purchases. However we can't do it alone, that is why we truly appreciate our member's help.
08:35:29 UTC EBay Agent  
I can tell you the range of action that we may take: from warnings, listing removals, and restrictions, up to an account suspension.
08:36:45 UTC member Expat
Great. So why is the listing still up with 8 hours to go, if it was reported last Wednesday/Thursday for the first time by multiple members? I guess I fail to see eBays actions in this matter. Five days for people to bid ona fake is kind of long...?
08:38:16 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you with this, in order to make sure that ebay is fair as well we are making sure that all information provided is investigated. Nothing to worry rest assured that action will eb taken once decision is made for this listing.
08:38:45 UTC EBay Agent  
Rest assured as well that buyers will be protected if proven this item is fake.
08:41:15 UTC member Expat
So I take it the auction will run it's course and if the buyer finds out he got duped, he is protected. Hmmm - I am just saying that we could save everybody a lot of heartache by stopping this from proceeding. Nevermind. I just wanted to make you aware.
08:43:20 UTC EBay Agent  
Appreciate you for getting in touch, rest assured that action will be taken care for this report.

This is so frustrating. I myself narrowly escaped a $10,000 loss on an eBay transaction a couple of weeks back by invoking the eBay Guarantee for lost/stolen objects, but I still had a couple of sleepless nights.
Now I am trying to protect someone from getting burned, but it sounds to me that the auction will run its course and they will deal with the fallout later. I actually took the time to chat with eBay about it. If you are interested read below:
 
2022 - 08 - 01
 
08:27:19 UTC EBay Agent  
I see here that you are having an issue/concern regarding an auction , I will be more than happy to help you.
08:30:27 UTC member Expat
. I am a coin collector and this guy is trying to sell three totally fake Krugerrands. They are so bad, they could be from a chewing gum machine. Absolutely 100% FAKE. He is trying to scam someone out of almost $3000 and it's not going to end well. A lot of people have reported this auction again and again over the last week, but eBay has not reacted at all. Now the auction is coming to an end and a buyer will get majorly screwed
08:30:52 UTC EBay Agent  
I see, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, so that we can deal with this immediately.
08:34:01 UTC member Expat
Sure. We are just trying to protect a bidder and keep eBay clean for all of us.
08:34:31 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you, and I apprecaite you for reaching out to us regarding this.
08:34:52 UTC EBay Agent  
Since you mentioned you already reported this, rest assured that action will be taken.
08:34:55 UTC EBay Agent  
We are working hard on identifying, reporting, and removing listings that violate our policies from our site. All of this, in order for our members to feel safe and continue to trust eBay with their online purchases. However we can't do it alone, that is why we truly appreciate our member's help.
08:35:29 UTC EBay Agent  
I can tell you the range of action that we may take: from warnings, listing removals, and restrictions, up to an account suspension.
08:36:45 UTC member Expat
Great. So why is the listing still up with 8 hours to go, if it was reported last Wednesday/Thursday for the first time by multiple members? I guess I fail to see eBays actions in this matter. Five days for people to bid ona fake is kind of long...?
08:38:16 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you with this, in order to make sure that ebay is fair as well we are making sure that all information provided is investigated. Nothing to worry rest assured that action will eb taken once decision is made for this listing.
08:38:45 UTC EBay Agent  
Rest assured as well that buyers will be protected if proven this item is fake.
08:41:15 UTC member Expat
So I take it the auction will run it's course and if the buyer finds out he got duped, he is protected. Hmmm - I am just saying that we could save everybody a lot of heartache by stopping this from proceeding. Nevermind. I just wanted to make you aware.
08:43:20 UTC EBay Agent  
Appreciate you for getting in touch, rest assured that action will be taken care for this report.

Well done for actually getting through to somebody from within the eBay world. Sounds like a lot of reassurance but not a lot of action on their part though. It'll be interesting if they let it go and wait for the buyer to complain or stop it before it's too late. Nice job expat 👍

Well done, @Expat!
I am really impressed!🤗

This is so frustrating. I myself narrowly escaped a $10,000 loss on an eBay transaction a couple of weeks back by invoking the eBay Guarantee for lost/stolen objects, but I still had a couple of sleepless nights.
Now I am trying to protect someone from getting burned, but it sounds to me that the auction will run its course and they will deal with the fallout later. I actually took the time to chat with eBay about it. If you are interested read below:
 
2022 - 08 - 01
 
08:27:19 UTC EBay Agent  
I see here that you are having an issue/concern regarding an auction , I will be more than happy to help you.
08:30:27 UTC member Expat
. I am a coin collector and this guy is trying to sell three totally fake Krugerrands. They are so bad, they could be from a chewing gum machine. Absolutely 100% FAKE. He is trying to scam someone out of almost $3000 and it's not going to end well. A lot of people have reported this auction again and again over the last week, but eBay has not reacted at all. Now the auction is coming to an end and a buyer will get majorly screwed
08:30:52 UTC EBay Agent  
I see, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, so that we can deal with this immediately.
08:34:01 UTC member Expat
Sure. We are just trying to protect a bidder and keep eBay clean for all of us.
08:34:31 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you, and I apprecaite you for reaching out to us regarding this.
08:34:52 UTC EBay Agent  
Since you mentioned you already reported this, rest assured that action will be taken.
08:34:55 UTC EBay Agent  
We are working hard on identifying, reporting, and removing listings that violate our policies from our site. All of this, in order for our members to feel safe and continue to trust eBay with their online purchases. However we can't do it alone, that is why we truly appreciate our member's help.
08:35:29 UTC EBay Agent  
I can tell you the range of action that we may take: from warnings, listing removals, and restrictions, up to an account suspension.
08:36:45 UTC member Expat
Great. So why is the listing still up with 8 hours to go, if it was reported last Wednesday/Thursday for the first time by multiple members? I guess I fail to see eBays actions in this matter. Five days for people to bid ona fake is kind of long...?
08:38:16 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you with this, in order to make sure that ebay is fair as well we are making sure that all information provided is investigated. Nothing to worry rest assured that action will eb taken once decision is made for this listing.
08:38:45 UTC EBay Agent  
Rest assured as well that buyers will be protected if proven this item is fake.
08:41:15 UTC member Expat
So I take it the auction will run it's course and if the buyer finds out he got duped, he is protected. Hmmm - I am just saying that we could save everybody a lot of heartache by stopping this from proceeding. Nevermind. I just wanted to make you aware.
08:43:20 UTC EBay Agent  
Appreciate you for getting in touch, rest assured that action will be taken care for this report.

This is so frustrating. I myself narrowly escaped a $10,000 loss on an eBay transaction a couple of weeks back by invoking the eBay Guarantee for lost/stolen objects, but I still had a couple of sleepless nights.
Now I am trying to protect someone from getting burned, but it sounds to me that the auction will run its course and they will deal with the fallout later. I actually took the time to chat with eBay about it. If you are interested read below:
 
2022 - 08 - 01
 
08:27:19 UTC EBay Agent  
I see here that you are having an issue/concern regarding an auction , I will be more than happy to help you.
08:30:27 UTC member Expat
. I am a coin collector and this guy is trying to sell three totally fake Krugerrands. They are so bad, they could be from a chewing gum machine. Absolutely 100% FAKE. He is trying to scam someone out of almost $3000 and it's not going to end well. A lot of people have reported this auction again and again over the last week, but eBay has not reacted at all. Now the auction is coming to an end and a buyer will get majorly screwed
08:30:52 UTC EBay Agent  
I see, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, so that we can deal with this immediately.
08:34:01 UTC member Expat
Sure. We are just trying to protect a bidder and keep eBay clean for all of us.
08:34:31 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you, and I apprecaite you for reaching out to us regarding this.
08:34:52 UTC EBay Agent  
Since you mentioned you already reported this, rest assured that action will be taken.
08:34:55 UTC EBay Agent  
We are working hard on identifying, reporting, and removing listings that violate our policies from our site. All of this, in order for our members to feel safe and continue to trust eBay with their online purchases. However we can't do it alone, that is why we truly appreciate our member's help.
08:35:29 UTC EBay Agent  
I can tell you the range of action that we may take: from warnings, listing removals, and restrictions, up to an account suspension.
08:36:45 UTC member Expat
Great. So why is the listing still up with 8 hours to go, if it was reported last Wednesday/Thursday for the first time by multiple members? I guess I fail to see eBays actions in this matter. Five days for people to bid ona fake is kind of long...?
08:38:16 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you with this, in order to make sure that ebay is fair as well we are making sure that all information provided is investigated. Nothing to worry rest assured that action will eb taken once decision is made for this listing.
08:38:45 UTC EBay Agent  
Rest assured as well that buyers will be protected if proven this item is fake.
08:41:15 UTC member Expat
So I take it the auction will run it's course and if the buyer finds out he got duped, he is protected. Hmmm - I am just saying that we could save everybody a lot of heartache by stopping this from proceeding. Nevermind. I just wanted to make you aware.
08:43:20 UTC EBay Agent  
Appreciate you for getting in touch, rest assured that action will be taken care for this report.

This is so frustrating. I myself narrowly escaped a $10,000 loss on an eBay transaction a couple of weeks back by invoking the eBay Guarantee for lost/stolen objects, but I still had a couple of sleepless nights.
Now I am trying to protect someone from getting burned, but it sounds to me that the auction will run its course and they will deal with the fallout later. I actually took the time to chat with eBay about it. If you are interested read below:
 
2022 - 08 - 01
 
08:27:19 UTC EBay Agent  
I see here that you are having an issue/concern regarding an auction , I will be more than happy to help you.
08:30:27 UTC member Expat
. I am a coin collector and this guy is trying to sell three totally fake Krugerrands. They are so bad, they could be from a chewing gum machine. Absolutely 100% FAKE. He is trying to scam someone out of almost $3000 and it's not going to end well. A lot of people have reported this auction again and again over the last week, but eBay has not reacted at all. Now the auction is coming to an end and a buyer will get majorly screwed
08:30:52 UTC EBay Agent  
I see, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, so that we can deal with this immediately.
08:34:01 UTC member Expat
Sure. We are just trying to protect a bidder and keep eBay clean for all of us.
08:34:31 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you, and I apprecaite you for reaching out to us regarding this.
08:34:52 UTC EBay Agent  
Since you mentioned you already reported this, rest assured that action will be taken.
08:34:55 UTC EBay Agent  
We are working hard on identifying, reporting, and removing listings that violate our policies from our site. All of this, in order for our members to feel safe and continue to trust eBay with their online purchases. However we can't do it alone, that is why we truly appreciate our member's help.
08:35:29 UTC EBay Agent  
I can tell you the range of action that we may take: from warnings, listing removals, and restrictions, up to an account suspension.
08:36:45 UTC member Expat
Great. So why is the listing still up with 8 hours to go, if it was reported last Wednesday/Thursday for the first time by multiple members? I guess I fail to see eBays actions in this matter. Five days for people to bid ona fake is kind of long...?
08:38:16 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you with this, in order to make sure that ebay is fair as well we are making sure that all information provided is investigated. Nothing to worry rest assured that action will eb taken once decision is made for this listing.
08:38:45 UTC EBay Agent  
Rest assured as well that buyers will be protected if proven this item is fake.
08:41:15 UTC member Expat
So I take it the auction will run it's course and if the buyer finds out he got duped, he is protected. Hmmm - I am just saying that we could save everybody a lot of heartache by stopping this from proceeding. Nevermind. I just wanted to make you aware.
08:43:20 UTC EBay Agent  
Appreciate you for getting in touch, rest assured that action will be taken care for this report.

This is so frustrating. I myself narrowly escaped a $10,000 loss on an eBay transaction a couple of weeks back by invoking the eBay Guarantee for lost/stolen objects, but I still had a couple of sleepless nights.
Now I am trying to protect someone from getting burned, but it sounds to me that the auction will run its course and they will deal with the fallout later. I actually took the time to chat with eBay about it. If you are interested read below:
 
2022 - 08 - 01
 
08:27:19 UTC EBay Agent  
I see here that you are having an issue/concern regarding an auction , I will be more than happy to help you.
08:30:27 UTC member Expat
. I am a coin collector and this guy is trying to sell three totally fake Krugerrands. They are so bad, they could be from a chewing gum machine. Absolutely 100% FAKE. He is trying to scam someone out of almost $3000 and it's not going to end well. A lot of people have reported this auction again and again over the last week, but eBay has not reacted at all. Now the auction is coming to an end and a buyer will get majorly screwed
08:30:52 UTC EBay Agent  
I see, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, so that we can deal with this immediately.
08:34:01 UTC member Expat
Sure. We are just trying to protect a bidder and keep eBay clean for all of us.
08:34:31 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you, and I apprecaite you for reaching out to us regarding this.
08:34:52 UTC EBay Agent  
Since you mentioned you already reported this, rest assured that action will be taken.
08:34:55 UTC EBay Agent  
We are working hard on identifying, reporting, and removing listings that violate our policies from our site. All of this, in order for our members to feel safe and continue to trust eBay with their online purchases. However we can't do it alone, that is why we truly appreciate our member's help.
08:35:29 UTC EBay Agent  
I can tell you the range of action that we may take: from warnings, listing removals, and restrictions, up to an account suspension.
08:36:45 UTC member Expat
Great. So why is the listing still up with 8 hours to go, if it was reported last Wednesday/Thursday for the first time by multiple members? I guess I fail to see eBays actions in this matter. Five days for people to bid ona fake is kind of long...?
08:38:16 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you with this, in order to make sure that ebay is fair as well we are making sure that all information provided is investigated. Nothing to worry rest assured that action will eb taken once decision is made for this listing.
08:38:45 UTC EBay Agent  
Rest assured as well that buyers will be protected if proven this item is fake.
08:41:15 UTC member Expat
So I take it the auction will run it's course and if the buyer finds out he got duped, he is protected. Hmmm - I am just saying that we could save everybody a lot of heartache by stopping this from proceeding. Nevermind. I just wanted to make you aware.
08:43:20 UTC EBay Agent  
Appreciate you for getting in touch, rest assured that action will be taken care for this report.

This is so frustrating. I myself narrowly escaped a $10,000 loss on an eBay transaction a couple of weeks back by invoking the eBay Guarantee for lost/stolen objects, but I still had a couple of sleepless nights.
Now I am trying to protect someone from getting burned, but it sounds to me that the auction will run its course and they will deal with the fallout later. I actually took the time to chat with eBay about it. If you are interested read below:
 
2022 - 08 - 01
 
08:27:19 UTC EBay Agent  
I see here that you are having an issue/concern regarding an auction , I will be more than happy to help you.
08:30:27 UTC member Expat
. I am a coin collector and this guy is trying to sell three totally fake Krugerrands. They are so bad, they could be from a chewing gum machine. Absolutely 100% FAKE. He is trying to scam someone out of almost $3000 and it's not going to end well. A lot of people have reported this auction again and again over the last week, but eBay has not reacted at all. Now the auction is coming to an end and a buyer will get majorly screwed
08:30:52 UTC EBay Agent  
I see, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, so that we can deal with this immediately.
08:34:01 UTC member Expat
Sure. We are just trying to protect a bidder and keep eBay clean for all of us.
08:34:31 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you, and I apprecaite you for reaching out to us regarding this.
08:34:52 UTC EBay Agent  
Since you mentioned you already reported this, rest assured that action will be taken.
08:34:55 UTC EBay Agent  
We are working hard on identifying, reporting, and removing listings that violate our policies from our site. All of this, in order for our members to feel safe and continue to trust eBay with their online purchases. However we can't do it alone, that is why we truly appreciate our member's help.
08:35:29 UTC EBay Agent  
I can tell you the range of action that we may take: from warnings, listing removals, and restrictions, up to an account suspension.
08:36:45 UTC member Expat
Great. So why is the listing still up with 8 hours to go, if it was reported last Wednesday/Thursday for the first time by multiple members? I guess I fail to see eBays actions in this matter. Five days for people to bid ona fake is kind of long...?
08:38:16 UTC EBay Agent  
I hear you with this, in order to make sure that ebay is fair as well we are making sure that all information provided is investigated. Nothing to worry rest assured that action will eb taken once decision is made for this listing.
08:38:45 UTC EBay Agent  
Rest assured as well that buyers will be protected if proven this item is fake.
08:41:15 UTC member Expat
So I take it the auction will run it's course and if the buyer finds out he got duped, he is protected. Hmmm - I am just saying that we could save everybody a lot of heartache by stopping this from proceeding. Nevermind. I just wanted to make you aware.
08:43:20 UTC EBay Agent  
Appreciate you for getting in touch, rest assured that action will be taken care for this report.

Reported the listing twice over the last 24 hours. Such a shame.
Also messaged the guy, but no answer.

Reported the listing twice over the last 24 hours. Such a shame.
Also messaged the guy, but no answer.

Reported the listing twice over the last 24 hours. Such a shame.
Also messaged the guy, but no answer.

Yes, I've heard about a smashing costume party at some seaside resort a bit earlier with the same general theme. 😁
 
BTT, not a bad day for the precious metal hoarder today, especially platinum. I keep telling you guys to buy it...