dangelo

Hi mate it seems to be British - assayed in London in 1820. It's not clear but the lower case e looks correct for 1820 and the image in the mark seems to be for London...

I agree on the buyer beware warning 100% ... There is a specific auction in the UK I see on saleroom online that is doing this for sure - I see coins go up to way past their bullion and numismatic value in the bid amount alone, so adding fees whould be stupid prices. But, then in the next auction - the same coins are there again! Either the house or seller is bidding them up, then they are "selling" but in fact no one is paying those stupid prices and the same coins appear in the next sale again. Sometimes this lasts over several sales until one idiot who is a real bidder puts a bid on and wins, then the coin is finally sold. I've seen this happen on a variety of coins over and over again. But it's not widespread - it seems to be the same few auction houses doing this - what I would call a fraud and scam to be honest. Examples - generic canadian maples & US silver eagles - "selling" for 40.00 each and terrible condition britannias (covered in milkspots which should be only worth spot price) "selling" for 40.00. Something else I see is coins "selling" at GOOD prices - hammer goes down "SOLD" at maybe -20% under the market prices BUT next auction - the same coin is on sale again! If it's not made the reserve it should hammer down as "PASSED" not "SOLD"! But I think these cases are fake bids, house bids or seller bids who are winning by mistake and then the coin has to go back in the next auction looking for a victim. I think it's a good idea to watch a few auctions for each auction house before you decide to trust them, at least you will get an idea of what the selling prices are like and you can see any trends in coins re-appearing over and over again and of course on the live videos - you can see some of the dishonest auctioneers inventing phantom bids "I can go straight in at X pounds!" and also hesitating for so long before bringing the hammer down if it's a fake bid... sometimes pausing for a minute or two and almost begging someone real to put the final bid on and speaking all kinds of cr*p like "very rare one this" "last chance" "is that it?" "only this price for this" "you could get double this price at the market" and all the other desperate and dishonest phrases you could think of... the best one i heard is an auctioneer shouting how RARE coins are that have mintages of 1 to 3 million and only a couple of years old and how you will "not find another one"... etc...

Hi @MCG0803 I just measured mine and it's closer to 2.85mm defo not 3.1mm. It's a genuine coin for sure and bought from a reputable dealer too. D'Angelo

Sounds fine, you are asking for legal tender and you can choose to accept 20k in silver brits for example its up to you. But i think on the land registry the sale will need to be recorded as 20k. This has benefits for buyer and seller (SDLT avoided). I'm no lawyer but it sounds like a legit loophole. Likewise for rent im exploring a similar topic... accepting gold as a deposit avoids the stupid months rent deposit limitation (giving over keys to your property to tennants and the fascist government says you can only take a tiny deposit). Even worse, the deposit now must be held by compushare the company with a monopoly hold on stock broking and they get the combined interest! Well you are allowed to accept property instead of cash as deposit and no limits apply.. so gold is ideal. Gold also can appreciate which means if you get to keep the deposit it may have grown in value to your benefit and not compushares. Good luck to you selling for gold or silver. Human 1, Fascists 0. Hopefully...

Agree half sov/month or full sov every 2 months. But unless you have firm control of your emotions and can resist shiny stuff, i bet you end up buying all kinds of gold and silver outside of your plan (evil laughter)

If I found this I'd probably turn the garden to some kind of archaeological dig site from Indiana Jones and start excavating in search of more treasure

Starting this thread to see what cool coin and bullion watches are out there. I think coin watches look great and would buy a 1oz gold one or even a silver crown watch or something. I got my first gold ingot watch years ago on a business class onboard shop for a bargain price. And a second one recently in an auction also for a bargain. The ingots are drilled so would be under 1g if you ever extracted them, but I still like the concept Here are two gold ingot watches to start. Love to see what you have - share in the comments?

I also started with gold in 2020 somewhere around the peak, but somehow due to some really smart deals and picking up bargains I've reached jsut 4.67% over today's current spot price in total. But the average price paid per unit over todays current spot price is +34% which seems really high. The few bargains I got pulled the whole cost down and I'm really happy with +4.67% in total because I have mostly premium coins and not low premium bullion. So in short, I think at least in my case, you can buy during high's and still overall end up with costs not to far from current spot price. Ave % Over Spot 134.44% Total % Over Spot 104.67%

I'd skip the calulations approach and simply ask a construction company to comment on how much an identical structure would cost today. I agree with you, surely it would be a few million, especially if the materials and workmanship are high end. I'd also consider anything delivered to a government is done so at inflated prices too, if that's who comissioned it

Thats a cool coin @silversurf! It has some authentic wear on it and I like the DOLLAR text it looks a bit amaterish which matches with the coins story. I think you are right, I guess I just needed some 2nd opinions to be sure since it's totally something I know nothing about. Luckily I didn't pay much for it since it came along with a bunch of other coins in deal, the others were all genuine I'm glad to report. Anyway it's got me interested in the real thing so that's the positive outcome! It looks like the safest way for me to find a genuine coin like this is to find a graded one that's been checked by pros. I read the same advice about old US $ coins in general because there are so many fakes. Sadly, buying only graded ones comes at that added cost. Anyway, I now keep my eyes open for any for sale. Cheers!

Hi everyone, I'm sharing some pictures of this tiny octagonal 1859 1/4 California Gold "coin" i picked up. I was hoping it might be a real privately minted (aka "real fake") fractional gold coin from the time of the gold rush in the US. But, I've read mixed reviews some stating that a coin like this is likely a more modern repro and maybe not even gold and others stating that it could be the real thing. I can't quite figure it out. If you are into these kind of coins maybe you can advise me. If it turns out to be real or even a repro but at least gold (.900) then I won't be too disapointed. I'd still like to pickup a few of the real ones if I find any because the history sounds pretty cool about how these fractional little gold coins were struck because of a shortage of small denomination official $ currency at the time and a plentiful supply of gold to hand to make up your own coinage. Some pics of "Cali G":

Silver and gold will both shoot up in-line with what's being done by the WHO, WEF and fascist governments under Bill Gates & friends orders. Hyper-inflation is coming for most economies which are not raking it in from the fake pandemic, together with food shortages, poverty spikes and lockdown damages such as no healthcase, delayed healthcare and add in the vaccine damages - adverse effects and deaths and all the rest (in total reaching a millon cases soon in the UK alone, and only a few percent are ever reported or recorded). Several commodities have hyper inflated already and continue to like pork and lumber. Employment is only available at cult-linked and cult-benefiting companies so for most unemployment is a big problem. These are just a few things going on in the world. When currency becomes worthless and you have the likes of China (and more to follow) rolling out trackable digital currency then people will have nowhere to turn but to gold, silver, subsistence farming or bartering in order to trade without having everything monitored and controled by a cult. The cult has brought mortality rates back to 2010 levels by killing people with lockdowns (and blaming a "virus") and they will keep driving hard while they are winning, people will continue to lose more freedom and the poor-rich divide gap will continue to widen as people are further enslaved by things such as UBI - sucked up by the poor and in return they have to abide by the demands of the hands that feed them. In view of this there may be a window to save "money" in gold and silver in the short to mid-term as it shoots up, but in the long term the governments and the cults above them will put an end to it because it is an "out" of their systems, just like they will put an end to cash money which can't be tracked and controled. Also unless you have enough gold and silver to last a lifetime it's only going so far as you sell off an ounce for $200 for example one week to get a weeks food supplies then next week an ounce might get you $220 in FIAT but the price of the shopping has doubled so you need to sell 2 ounces for $440 to get a weeks food and so on... you will need a large stack to get you and your loved ones though life. The WEF dictates no one should own anything, as a consumer you will only be allowed to rent things - property and vehicle ownership will end fully and everyone will need to submit fully to the cult narative and dystopia they have decided upon for you. You will have no stack at this point, everything belongs to the cult, including your life.