1902 Quintuple Sovereign. Proof Or Not?

[Stuntman]

I think it's probably the matte finish version of the 1902 quintuple.  I think there was a non-matte currency (bullion) version and also this matte version, which (again I think) was described as proof.

You can certainly get non-proof matte finish coins; the modern quintuple from 2019 onwards also comes as a matte finish brilliant uncirculated coin, not a proof.

The currency version of the 1902 seems to command a higher value than the matte.

A lot of the 1902 matte proof silver coins were 'wiped' at the Royal Mint and this may have been what happened to your coin here.  So it might not have been cleaned post-mint, the 'cleaning' may have occurred at the RM.

Looks a nice coin in the second set of photos.  Definitely would be one to evaluate in-hand if I was thinking of buying (which I'm not).

Good luck with the sale.  

Edited February 9 by Stuntman
clarity about the modern quintuples (there are also proofs in the sets of course!)

[Organics]

10 minutes ago, Stuntman said:

I think it's probably the matte finish version of the 1902 quintuple.  I think there was a non-matte currency (bullion) version and also this matte version, which (again I think) was described as proof.

You can certainly get non-proof matte finish coins; the modern quintuple from 2019 onwards also comes as a matte finish brilliant uncirculated coin, not a proof.

The currency version of the 1902 seems to command a higher value than the matte.

A lot of the 1902 matte proof silver coins were 'wiped' at the Royal Mint and this may have been what happened to your coin here.  So it might not have been cleaned post-mint, the 'cleaning' may have occurred at the RM.

Looks a nice coin in the second set of photos.  Definitely would be one to evaluate in-hand if I was thinking of buying (which I'm not).

Good luck with the sale.  

Thank you for your response and have a blessed weekend 🙏

[Britannia47]

5 hours ago, refero said:

1902 coronations are matte not proof

https://lifestyle.royalmint.com/sovereign/all/1902-Edward-VII-Matt-Proof-5-Sovereign/
 

Yes, ‘proofs’ normally have a frosted relief and a mirrored field, but the 1902 Coronation ‘Long set’ of 13 coins of matte proofs was an exception, from which this Quintuplet was probably taken from…..

[Britannia47]

Found more information:

Courtesy of Chards, and a very old catalogue! which explains why you would not expect to see a proof like this today….

 

[Organics]

1 hour ago, Britannia47 said:

Found more information:

Courtesy of Chards, and a very old catalogue! which explains why you would not expect to see a proof like this today….

 

Thank you again 🙏

[Organics]

1 hour ago, Britannia47 said:

Found more information:

Courtesy of Chards, and a very old catalogue! which explains why you would not expect to see a proof like this today….

 

By the way, when you say you “not expect”, you mean because they were all part of sets? 

[sovereignsteve]

Wish i could get a couple of sets for that price☺️

[Leonmarsh]

It's a 1902 matte proof that has been cleaned