Can anyone ID these coins for me?

[arphethean]

Can't find anything on the net!

They are all J and R Kennedy.

Anyone know anything? 

[James32]

@Mrpound

[Mrpound]

Got to be honest never seen any of them before, I am intrigued though. can we see the other side of them obverse/reverse, don’t know which side is which as I’ve never seen them before🤣

[arphethean]

Thanks. Other side

[Arganto]

Got this from a Brave image search, trying to find an article or post linked to it. From a site called catawiki.be 🤷🏼‍♂️

*Appears to be referencing a possibly expired auction. Ah well.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Arganto
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[Arganto]

Found more images of what appear to be gold versions from "easyliveauctions" and "numisbids", struggling to get any information though. 

[Mrpound]

Unfortunately I can’t help you in the slightest 🤣 but would love to hear what if anything you dig up on them 👍

[Arganto]

Can see where they got the reverse design from:

 

[RRH87]

Found a fair few if very similar coins but mostly with the standard eagle or eagle on a branch. Some have combed hair some wavey like yours. Didn't find any with the same images as yours. Key words seem to be medal, commemorative, assassination. Also found a fair few with links back to the Paris mint like this one

 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/jfk-rfk-kennedy-brothers-1944745713

The one on the left holds the presidential seal as on the half dollar. Couldn't find anything on the crossed axes. 

Similar coin https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374069097669?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=374069097669&targetid=1405282543879&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007092&poi=&campaignid=17218284410&mkgroupid=142217514411&rlsatarget=pla-1405282543879&abcId=9300867&merchantid=9324144&gclid=Cj0KCQiA1ZGcBhCoARIsAGQ0kkpBHX104L0CvmCt7G7LK-6AwVmOnoNl3M9jFPGlTJ1_YR10uAk3BogaAqsPEALw_wcB

Coin 1 and 3 look to have some stamp perhaps?

[Arganto]

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=931&lot=1202

Doesn't help trace where it was made or by whom but I'm adding to the journey...🤔

Edited November 28, 2022 by Arganto

[Arganto]

51 minutes ago, RRH87 said:

Coin 1 and 3 look to have some stamp perhaps?

Well done, they all do looking closer. The big one seems to have initials under RFK too...

[arphethean]

Thanks for all your efforts. None the wiser. Seems to be easier to find them in gold! 

Here is the mark or stamp you mentioned closer up... looks like it says 1000 but what that means i have no idea?

[RRH87]

I don't know but from what I've seen probably a commemorative medal probably a private mint and possibly silver plated. Maybe someone else with some experience can add some more.

[StackemHigh]

1 minute ago, RRH87 said:

I don't know but from what I've seen probably a commemorative medal probably a private mint and possibly silver plated. Maybe someone else with some experience can add some more.

this is what i was thinking. I don't think it's a coin.

[RRH87]

Closest I could find. The reverse designs really seem to stick out because all the coins I have found with the obverse side have the standard eagle. Definitely an interesting piece and probably rather rare. 

[Arganto]

It is a medal rather than a coin, but that just means it carries no denomination and isn't classed as currency. These commemorate the deaths of the Kennedys. The use of an older and probably less well known reverse design is interesting for sure and maybe points to a well known mint as opposed to a fly by night. They could well be silver but potentially copper or bronze. They made a gold version (I think it was .750 from what I read on that page) so anything is possible.