5oz Silver Canadian holo 2015 damage

[GodsMoney]

Hi can you help me understand what's happened to this coin please with the damage to both sides? 

[daca]

please add more pictures

[GodsMoney]

25 minutes ago, carrigher82 said:

 

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by carrigher82
Created in error

[GodsMoney]

12 minutes ago, daca said:

please add more pictures

Added more, could this be polish at all? Would this damage indicate this coins a fake?

[James32]

1 minute ago, carrigher82 said:

Looks like dreaded milkspotting 

[daca]

15 minutes ago, carrigher82 said:

 Would this damage indicate this coins a fake?

Never see this type of damage, I would take the coin to a bullion dealer to verify the authenticity 

Sadly the damage is done, just bullion value at this point (if real).

 

[GodsMoney]

33 minutes ago, daca said:

Never see this type of damage, I would take the coin to a bullion dealer to verify the authenticity 

Sadly the damage is done, just bullion value at this point (if real).

 

Could silver polish like Silvo cause this kind of thing?

[DrDave]

There are distinct lines where the damage is. It actually looks like it is silver plate and its peel off, especially on the face.

I hope i'm wrong though 😕

[GodsMoney]

I've weighed the coin and it's the correct grams, also no metallic. Would it be hard to make this coin as a fake with the correct weight?

[James32]

4 minutes ago, carrigher82 said:

I've weighed the coin and it's the correct grams, also no metallic. Would it be hard to make this coin as a fake with the correct weight?

Not hard but it would be either bigger in diameter or thicker ( check measurements on Mint's website)

[GodsMoney]

21 minutes ago, James32 said:

Not hard but it would be either bigger in diameter or thicker ( check measurements on Mint's website)

What a performance this is haha the weight and diameter look fine against the spec. Can't find a thickness measurement anywhere. I guess I'll have to take it for an acid test and hope it's at least bullion value

[James32]

3 minutes ago, carrigher82 said:

What a performance this is haha the weight and diameter look fine against the spec. Can't find a thickness measurement anywhere. I guess I'll have to take it for an acid test and hope it's at least bullion value

🤣🤣 try this first before inflicting more damage. 

https://youtu.be/GH6h6GhEDjA

[stefffana]

1 minute ago, James32 said:

🤣🤣 try this first before inflicting more damage. 

https://youtu.be/GH6h6GhEDjA

For this big coin will need a minimum 1000g scale, with a minimum of 0.1g accuracy to do a specific gravity test.

On Amazon can be bought a good one up to £15.

[daca]

https://www.apmex.com/product/88343/2015-canada-5-oz-silver-50-lustrous-maple-leaves-hologram

5oz = 155.5 g

diameter is 40 mm on apmex  site

[James32]

7 minutes ago, daca said:

https://www.apmex.com/product/88343/2015-canada-5-oz-silver-50-lustrous-maple-leaves-hologram

5oz = 155.5 g

diameter is 40 mm on apmex  site

For a 5oz coin with a 40mm diameter the thickness should be double 😃 I'm only guessing but I believe apmex has the wrong diameter. 

[Happypanda88]

5 minutes ago, daca said:

https://www.apmex.com/product/88343/2015-canada-5-oz-silver-50-lustrous-maple-leaves-hologram

5oz = 155.5 g

diameter is 40 mm on apmex  site

That has to be wrong on the apmex site. A 5oz coin has to be a lot larger in diameter. Otherwise, it would be really thick.

I suspect the coin concerned has been handled and maybe badly cleaned.

[SilverJacks]

I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure harsh cleaning products will certainly damage the delicate proof finish, which seems consistent with the frosting missing in large patches, and the remainder of it weakened/damaged. Is the hologram leaf also meant to look brighter? Looks like damage to me.

Have you cleaned it? Or maybe purchase the coin from the secondary market, allowing for someone to have cleaned it?

[SilverJacks]

https://www.powercoin.it/en/royal-canadian-mint/1618-maple-leaf-hologram-5-oz-silver-coin-50-canada-2015.html

Powercoin have the correct specs

[GodsMoney]

1 minute ago, SilverJacks said:

I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure harsh cleaning products will certainly damage the delicate proof finish, which seems consistent with the frosting missing in large patches, and the remainder of it weakened/damaged. Is the hologram leaf also meant to look brighter? Looks like damage to me.

Have you cleaned it? Or maybe purchase the coin from the secondary market, allowing for someone to have cleaned it?

Yes I got it's second hand quite cheap, not far off 5oz bullion tbh so as long as it's fine silver I'm still happy to have it. Someone I know that polishes said if Silvo is used sometimes this can happen? Looks quite a lot of damage though for just a basic silver polish to do but who knows