Revere Silver Co Flatware, value?

[therealfleen]

Hello, I picked these up at an estate sale; however, I cannot find these patterns anywhere online. I'm looking for any indication of value on this set and what content of silver these are. I've included pictures and markings. I don't see any numbers stamped anywhere.

Cheers,
Randy

 

Edited June 29, 2022 by therealfleen

[TheShinyStuff]

Your kind of thing @stefffana?

[stefffana]

Hi, unfortunately your set it is not silver, I am sorry for this. It is written Silver as part of the name of the maker, but it is for sure not silver.

 

 

[Arganto]

https://www.paulreverehouse.org/revere-silver/

Have you tested the metal? Could be genuine items although this site doesn't mention the name being marked as it is on yours so could be reproductions/copies?

 

[dicker]

Welcome to the forum!

[therealfleen]

Hi. Thank you all.

[therealfleen]

20 hours ago, Arganto said:

https://www.paulreverehouse.org/revere-silver/

Have you tested the metal? Could be genuine items although this site doesn't mention the name being marked as it is on yours so could be reproductions/copies?

 

Only with a magnet...which these items are not attracted to. Does that help?

20 hours ago, stefffana said:

Hi, unfortunately your set it is not silver, I am sorry for this. It is written Silver as part of the name of the maker, but it is for sure not silver.

 

 

Hello. Thank you for your reply. How can one be sure it is not silver? (Not doubting you...)

[Arganto]

3 hours ago, therealfleen said:

Only with a magnet

Not being magnetic is a good start. You can perform a specific gravity test (a web search will yield plenty of results) but may be awkward with flatware because of the size and shape. There is acid testing but that involves a small amount of damage being done which isn't always ideal. Personally I would look up a local antiques dealer for advice on authenticity and/or a pawn broker/metals dealer who may have an analytics machine that tests the metal. There are a few types, Sigma and Niton being the most commonly mentioned on the forum.

If what you have is a genuine Revere set then it will be a ~18th century piece of American history and worth finding out about. Just be prepared for the possibility of them being non-original and potentially not silver.

Edited June 30, 2022 by Arganto
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[sixgun]

On 29/06/2022 at 08:41, stefffana said:

Hi, unfortunately your set it is not silver, I am sorry for this. It is written Silver as part of the name of the maker, but it is for sure not silver.

My gut reaction was the same, this is not solid silver - i was trying to find this maker's flatware - i looked a little but couldn't be certain. 

Here we have mentioned of Revere Silver Co - but the marks are not the same - plus we see 'Sterling' on the pieces.

Edited June 30, 2022 by sixgun

[Arganto]

57 minutes ago, sixgun said:

Here we have mentioned of Revere Silver Co - but the marks are not the same - plus we see 'Sterling' on the pieces.

"Paul Revere did not mark his work using his signature, other numbers or letters, or with a picture of a horse and rider, or a patriot’s head. Any silver marked in this way was not made in Revere’s shop."

Revere Silversmiths out of New York are a different outfit than Revere of Massachusetts, although the Revere maker's mark fluctuated it didn't include the mark on the OP's flatware in fairness.

A little further digging reveals this from a post on 925-1000.com;

"Exactly who it says it is -- The Paul Revere Silver Company. They made silverplate goods in Boston, c 1912-1922."

https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9470

Looking likely to be an early 20th century plated silver set OP. I would still recommend seeking the advice of a specialist in your area for piece of mind.

[sixgun]

@Arganto this isn't Paul Revere - it is Revere (no Paul) - as i can see these are different entities.

[Arganto]

42 minutes ago, sixgun said:

@Arganto this isn't Paul Revere - it is Revere (no Paul) - as i can see these are different entities.

If it was the OG Paul Revere from the 18th century his work just used 'Revere', although not presented as 'Revere Silver Co' as far as I can find. I take your point about the 'Paul Revere Silver Company ', so potentially it could be a genuine silver item rather than silver plate from that company.

Having it appraised is likely the best course of action, unless there is an American silverware specialist on TSF?

[stefffana]

On any american flatware, If is silver, by law should be clear written Sterling. If not, for sure it is not even silver plated. Silver plated should have a number of patent.

 

[stefffana]

There are many makers who are using the word Silver only to foul customers. These products have 0% silver in composition. 

Arizona Silver, Nevada Silver, Argentina Silver, Peru Silver, German Silver..... and much more...

But if it is real silver should have some minimum hallmarks, according with legislations and regulations around the world.

Edited June 30, 2022 by stefffana

[Dakaras]

I saw one the other day claimed to be enriched silver 🤣

[Arganto]

3 hours ago, stefffana said:

On any american flatware, If is silver, by law should be clear written Sterling

I don't think that is the case with early American products, it was a bit more laissez-faire by the looks of things;

https://www.rough-polished.com/en/expertise/12974.html

If it is a more modern example though, 19th century onward, I would agree you would expect to see more standardised markings being used. It all depends on when it was made I guess. 

It does appear though that 'Revere Silver Co.' was previously 'Revere Silversmiths' and operated in the 20th century. On the balance of probability then this collection is likely not silver. I'm not making any assertions, this is just from poking around looking for the company in question.

[stefffana]

The easiest way to know if it is silver or not it is a drop of acid.

Can be found very cheap on Ebay or Amazon.

[Dakaras]

1 hour ago, stefffana said:

The easiest way to know if it is silver or not it is a drop of acid.

Can be found very cheap on Ebay or Amazon.

https://www.assay-test.com/ these guys have good products at sensible prices.