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This is a fair point although I would hope the XRF machine would be able to penetrate something of this thickness?

Sorry bud, not sure what you mean (might be me). Yours in the picture says it is 1 lb .999 fine silver. As it weighs 12 toz it's a troy pound as opposed to an AVP pound, there were some made as AVP pounds by some accounts. It should have tested as 99.9% silver but the XRF results show it is 96.98%. There may be some variance in total weight between examples of these but if it was sold as being 99.9% it should test as such as a minimum. Someone has created yours with a less pure mix of metals. If it was made in the US I'm not sure why as the profit motive wouldn't make sense as silver has generally been very cheap over there. It could be it was made elsewhere?

I don't doubt the result would be genuine, it's the fact that it's .97 or thereabouts not .999. These Mints produced .999 versions.

Were the XRF results the same for the obverse and reverse? A nice chunk of silver but not a .999 piece made by one of the known mints in the USA if the analysis is accurate. If the numbers are right you have around 11.64 toz of actual silver.

Every time I see a picture of one of these 'Angel's Silver' bars I want to lick them. I don't know why.

Can You See Anything? Yes, Woeful Things. Everywhere The Glint Of Greed.

Perth Mint published a very helpful and very in depth guide to spotting the difference between real and counterfeit assay carded bars some years ago. The article featured the older green cards and the more recent black ones and was extremely helpful for me when I was looking at these. Unfortunately they've removed the page, which is silly. I have managed to find a similar article on the wayback machine but this one is much lighter on information and only covers the black cards: https://web.archive.org/web/20190223040530/http://www.perthmintbullion.com/us/blog/blog/15-05-20/don_t_get_duped_by_fake_minted_bars.aspx If anyone is interested a bit of digging around may unearth the article in question.

My defence is I just tore open my packages like a savage with a knife as usual, it was too late once I saw it 🤣

Thank you @AgD! The Gruffalo proof 50p, 1/4oz Aztec and bonus half crowns are appreciated. Merry Christmas to @AgD, @trp, @ChrisSilver and all of The Silver Forum 🎄

Pffft, guess I'm off down to Poundland to get some gold paint to keep @Mox happy...

The way that boat sank I'm lucky I found anything back there at all!

Keep an eye on the postal strikes fellas and fellarettes, they state they will try and get special deliveries out regardless but there will likely be delays and more time with packages sat in the sorting offices.

I wouldn't send the Prime Minister, he's bloody useless. I sent a Dungeon Master to @Mox

It is a medal rather than a coin, but that just means it carries no denomination and isn't classed as currency. These commemorate the deaths of the Kennedys. The use of an older and probably less well known reverse design is interesting for sure and maybe points to a well known mint as opposed to a fly by night. They could well be silver but potentially copper or bronze. They made a gold version (I think it was .750 from what I read on that page) so anything is possible.

Well done, they all do looking closer. The big one seems to have initials under RFK too...

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=931&lot=1202 Doesn't help trace where it was made or by whom but I'm adding to the journey...🤔

Can see where they got the reverse design from:

Found more images of what appear to be gold versions from "easyliveauctions" and "numisbids", struggling to get any information though.

Got this from a Brave image search, trying to find an article or post linked to it. From a site called catawiki.be 🤷🏼‍♂️ *Appears to be referencing a possibly expired auction. Ah well.

Woot! Thanks @AgDand @trp!

😮 Woof, generous! 🙃😉

Looks suspiciously like a target...

Pffft, got this beat. Send me your coins, I will grade them on a scale of 1-5 (10 is double digits, that's just hard). I will then take several high definition photographs and even a video of the coin slabbed in pure Waterford crystal. I will upload the content to a cloud or a rainbow or whatever, and sell you an NFT of the process. I will, um, store your coin in a secure location. It will always be yours, and you can even display your digital crystal-slabbed coin on your hand butter covered tablet/phone/14" Technicolour telly. Boom; better grading, better slabbing, better storage. The modern world is just great!

Are you Terry Pratchett?

A very modern and very avoidable problem. Having any important infrastructure fully reliant on an internet connection is very short sighted. I can understand an alert system attached to the alarm network using a connection to inform a remote user of a trigger, but that would be the limit and the standard telephony network can be used to do this anyway. The whole thing should have been essentially ring fenced from the web really. It should be the same with power stations, hospitals and the like. You suffer some inconvenience for superior security. It doesn't hurt to employ a decent number of guards with pew-pews too. That said a good heist is strangely satisfying, especially as it was pro-level and didn't involve murdering anyone. Sad the coins will likely be melted though I do not endorse criminal activity in any way MI6 algo-bot 👀