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Made by Smith & Pepper, Birmingham. 1951

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Yeah it's not quite the same so I had another look - the pattern is called Gadroon - found it on Replacements.com. Mobius

Don't know much about American silver but a quick search came up with 'International Silver Co' for the maker. This page shows some of their patterns: https://www.silverqueen.com/Info/Guide looks like it could be the 'Processional' pattern. Mobius

These sets usually only sell for the silver price at auction - so the lucky seller will get around £1000 for his £1600 worth of silver 🙄 Mobius

It's usual for scent bottles to have a hinged lid, along with an inner glass stopper used for dabbing the perfume on with. If we're ever going to solve this we need to know what's under that lid, and what size it is. I'm still going for a scent bottle, It looks too deep for an inkwell (unless it's very small) Edit: @sixgun posted at the same time - see his picture above. Has yours got a stopper like this?

Looks like a scent/perfume bottle. Is it glass inside? How big is it?

There's the Maria Theresa thaler, but they're only .833 silver, not Sterling. Mobius.

Buy a 22ct coin holder type necklace thing from a jewellery supplier and stick a bullion coin in it... Mobius.

Could it be roman numerals for 2001? Maybe they've started dating their bars. Mobius.

I reckon boob 1 is it's a bare head not laureate. Not too sure about boob 2, unless they think it's Marsh No. 90 and it aint. Mobius.

I buy quite a bit of antique silver from auctions and it totally baffles me when I see sovereigns and other bullion for sale in a catalogue. What sort of moron would sell their gold at 60% of spot! I really wish I knew who these people were. Mobius.

Hi @croftca It's Columbian .900 Silver. I can't find anything on the maker but this mark and the dates you mentioned match. As to price, that will probably go off weight. If you can weigh it and establish the exact silver content (90% of it's weight) and the current silver price, that will give you it's minimum value. Having said that, I would think the set of six goblets would sell for much more than scrap value. Mobius.

Hi @Chic Yes it's William Suckling, Birmingham, 1941. Unfortunately it's not really worth much more than scrap value - around £15 per troy oz. Mobius.

Hi @sixgun I'm getting this information from 25 years of dealing in antique silver and my many reference books. The site you used seems to be showing some hallmarks that were used for silver, I've just run a known gold hallmark through the site and it incorrectly showed the Leopards head shape for silver. The font used on the ring is definately the one 3 left from the one you selected, but that site isn't showing the correct date mark surround for gold. Mobius.

Hi, unfortunately the major reference book for silver and gold marks (Jackson's) only goes up to 1850 and by the late 1800s there were probably thousands of goldsmiths and silversmiths. You may only find the maker by trailing through loads of old dusty books! Personally I wouldn't bother, it's not a famous maker so nobody really cares! Mobius.

Here's mine - not a coin though... Mobius.

I can't find anything on the makers mark, but you were right about the date in the first place, it's 1896. The date letter font isn't right for 1956 and the wavy bottomed date letter shape was used on silver, but the box with chamferred corners (as per your ring) was used for gold. It's a bit of a tricky one because two different alternative marks are used here; The Crown and '18' have been split into two marks where it would have normally been a single mark (18 with a Crown above) and the Leopards head on your ring is in a box with chamferred corners which was an alternative mark used from 1896. I fear you may never find out who the maker was, but I'll let you know if I find anything in my ref books. Mobius.

Just checked the single coin price and, as I suspected, it's the volume pricing 'from' price that doesn't make sense. A single new coin costs £6 more than the second quality coin - the second quality coins 'from' price is if you are buying 2 or 3, but the new coin 'from' price is for 100+. Personally I hate these 'from' prices, I reckon they should show the price for one, it would be a lot easier to compare without having to click on each coin for the single coin price. Mobius.

Thanks for the welcome guys!

Hi Folks, as a new member I thought by way of introduction I'd tell you my gold story... I got my first case of gold fever back in 2003 and promptly set off for Chards in Blackpool, where I spent about £3000 on 1oz coins. I remember Lawrence producing a 'Chard' coin that they had had made and asking what I thought of it, and, after I said I didn't think it was gold, he said 'congratulations, it's fooled a lot of people' and gave it me for free! (I've still got it somewhere). Back then Krugerrands were £249, Maples £252, Australian Nuggets £260 and Pandas £302. Then a few years later (2007 ish) I went back to Chards and paid £3,555 for a bag of 50 Sovs. So I paid about £7000 for 24 ounces. Anyway, I ended up selling it all (too soon, as it turned out). Fast forward to 2021 and wouldn't you know it, I've been infected again! This time it's a slow slog, buying a 1oz Britannia when I can afford it and Sovs when I can't, but for me it's the only way to save. God I wish I still had it all! Cheers, Mobius.