Gold 1/4oz Britannia Dimensions

[MassiveGoldenDongle]

Hi all, looking for your help.

I usually only buy sovereigns but picked up a couple 1/4 oz Britannias locally as a change.

From what I can find the dimensions from Royal Mint are 22.05mm diameter and 7.77g.

Mine weigh approx 7.80g and 21.95mm in diameter.

Is this about right for them?  Could any compare?  

 

They are 2020 and 2019.

Edited April 25 by MassiveGoldenDongle
Size correction

[BullionBuyerUK]

I'm pretty sure the 1/4 Britannia from those years are 22mm in diameter. And that is right about the weight. So I would say your coins are correct 

[Roy]

Yes, agree here too.

The beauty of collecting 1/4 Brits and Sovs are that the proof capsules are the same, and you can mix and match presentation boxes.

[MassiveGoldenDongle]

Thanks.  Yea both fit the same capsule which saves on that!

 

So 0.05mm (21.95 as opposed to 22.00) under size is within tolerance?

[Britannia47]

There are interesting specification differences between the Sovereign and the 1/4 oz coins. I’m sure you were quoting the Sovereign diameter of 22.05 by the way!

A 1/4 oz Britannia (999) weighs less than a sovereign but contains more gold - 7.77g, whilst the Sovereign being 22ct only has about 7.31!  Fractional gold, whether it’s 999 gold or 22ct nearly always contain slightly more to ensure it meets its minimum weight. Thus 7.80g is quite normal for a 1/4oz…..

I now prefer the 999 1/4oz to Modern Sovereigns because of the colour! 😊 @MassiveGoldenDongle

 

[MassiveGoldenDongle]

Some sites report the 1/4 at 22.05 same as sovereign whilst others at 22.00.  

I also prefer the 1/4 brit to a sov but the premium on them is a lot larger at 8-10% that's why I went for sovs as my staple.

 

Interesting point is that Royal Mint is now reporting proof 1/4 Brits at 7.80g on the nose rather than 7.77g or 1/4 oz which they do for the bullion version.

 

https://www.royalmint.com/britannia/commemorative/2023/the-britannia-2023-quarter-ounce-gold-proof-coin/

[Britannia47]

6 hours ago, MassiveGoldenDongle said:

Some sites report the 1/4 at 22.05 same as sovereign whilst others at 22.00.  

I also prefer the 1/4 brit to a sov but the premium on them is a lot larger at 8-10% that's why I went for sovs as my staple.

 

Interesting point is that Royal Mint is now reporting proof 1/4 Brits at 7.80g on the nose rather than 7.77g or 1/4 oz which they do for the bullion version.

 

https://www.royalmint.com/britannia/commemorative/2023/the-britannia-2023-quarter-ounce-gold-proof-coin/

You are correct. The RM has always specified proof 999 Brits as 7.80g, but a 1/4ozt in grams is 7.77g although rarely specified.

1oz-Troy is 31.1035g divided by 4 = 7.77g = 1/4oz!….

The premium on a 1/4oz (including QBs, TBs etc is bound to be more because of the greater gold content.

With Bullion Sovereigns a dealers premium is based on the lower amount of actual gold, which is .2354 Troy oz or 7.32g.

As you can see on the 1987 proof Britannia being 22ct. the overall weight is heavier at 8.513 to account for the copper alloy.

It can be confusing when dealing with weights of 22ct and 999 gold in both grams and Troy ounces 🙁

You’re probably right to stick to Sovereigns, Good-luck.

 

[MassiveGoldenDongle]

I've always found the higher the gold quantity the lower the premium a.  Ie a 1 oz has less premium than a 1/2 oz etc, except with sovereigns ha!

I presume sovereigns are made in much higher quantity so costs lower.

[Esjayc]

On 29/04/2024 at 05:06, MassiveGoldenDongle said:

Some sites report the 1/4 at 22.05 same as sovereign whilst others at 22.00.  

I also prefer the 1/4 brit to a sov but the premium on them is a lot larger at 8-10% that's why I went for sovs as my staple.

 

Interesting point is that Royal Mint is now reporting proof 1/4 Brits at 7.80g on the nose rather than 7.77g or 1/4 oz which they do for the bullion version.

 

https://www.royalmint.com/britannia/commemorative/2023/the-britannia-2023-quarter-ounce-gold-proof-coin/

I have a carded 1/4 bullion sov (2023 Memorial) which turned up today. The card states "1.99g" total weight, yet some proofs from previous years state "2 grams" on their certificates.

These weights are confirmed on the relevant pages for proof and bullion quarter sovs on the RM website. Would have thought they'd be the same weight.