Victoria Sovereign in gold pendants.

[Aldebaran]

I have a small collection of sovereigns in gold pendants and have noticed that the Victoria ones are mounted face outwards.

Is this normal and showing the respect with which Victoria was held and once Edward came to the throne it was thought inappropriate and St. George became the norm?

The one on the left is 1900 and I have just noticed that it is a Sydney mint, does that mint mark affect the value of the sovereign to a great degree.

 

 

Edited April 22, 2023 by Aldebaran
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[Silverlocks]

4 hours ago, Aldebaran said:

I have a small collection of sovereigns in gold pendants and have noticed that the Victoria ones are mounted face outwards.

Is this normal and showing the respect with which Victoria was held and once Edward came to the throne it was thought inappropriate and St. George became the norm?

The one on the left is 1900 and I have just noticed that it is a Sydney mint, does that mint mark affect the value of the sovereign to a great degree.

 

 

I'm not aware of any particular convention with regard to pendants or rings.  I've seen pics of rings with the G&D or the obverse mounted outwards, and I've seen sovs with either or both sides polished.   More often than not it seems to be the obverse.

[Upsidedown]

Obverse forward appears to be the most popular but It's just personal preference, perhaps different fashions through different ages has an impact.

I wear mine G&D forward because I love the iconic artwork.

Going back further, the Saxons loved wearing roman coinage (and even the romans did I believe), plenty of rings and pendants have been found with emporer forward and also with reverse forward, whatever appeals to the wearer.

[Britannia47]

1914 KGV - A rare sovereign indeed with the horse facing left! 🐎😃😃

[Upsidedown]

1 hour ago, Britannia47 said:

1914 KGV - A rare sovereign indeed with the horse facing left! 🐎😃😃

It also has a 180° die rotation error as can be clearly seen in this picture..

[Spyder]

The 1900s old head looks to be in decent unpolished condition. The mintage is pretty low for that year compared to the London mint. 

If this was mine, I would remove and place a lesser quality sovereign in that mount. Back to your question, it is all a preference. I might also be a sex thing, where men would rather show the St George side where some ladies would prefer the effigy side. 

Here you can find mintage figures for sovereigns.

https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/info/sovereign-mintages

[Aldebaran]

44 minutes ago, Spyder said:

The 1900s old head looks to be in decent unpolished condition. The mintage is pretty low for that year compared to the London mint. 

If this was mine, I would remove and place a lesser quality sovereign in that mount. Back to your question, it is all a preference. I might also be a sex thing, where men would rather show the St George side where some ladies would prefer the effigy side. 

Here you can find mintage figures for sovereigns.

https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/info/sovereign-mintages

Thank you, I am probably too sentimental - it was the first one I owned, we bought it from a jeweller about 20 years ago.

Apparently the mount and chain are contemporary too. Perhaps if it had been kept more carefully the coin would be in better condition.

As it is St. George’s Day, a 2005 is the perfect choice 😎

[stefffana]

On 22/04/2023 at 19:15, Aldebaran said:

I have a small collection of sovereigns in gold pendants and have noticed that the Victoria ones are mounted face outwards.

Is this normal and showing the respect with which Victoria was held and once Edward came to the throne it was thought inappropriate and St. George became the norm?

The one on the left is 1900 and I have just noticed that it is a Sydney mint, does that mint mark affect the value of the sovereign to a great degree.

 

 

You have nice pendants in your collection, my friend!🤗

I have bought also for my daughters few gold coin pendants and I am really pleased.

The position of coin in the pendant doesn't really matter. These pendants were more utilitarian than jewellery. A kind of sovereign holders.

In the past, was very common to attach a gold or silver coin to a chain/bracelet/brooch, because this method was a very handy one to have spare cash with you all the time only for emergency situations. When needed, easy to take out from mount pendant the sovereign, buy something or pay for a service, when home put back another one for next emergency. Nowadays, people are asking why in that era people used to ruin rare coins, but we need to put in their place to understand better.

Today, all of us we have for a easier life:

1. Some folded banknotes hidden in the car for "just in case" situations.

2. Minimum one credit card in the wallet with some spare money into account.

3. Mobile phone to contact someone for help if need.

4. Sat-nav or Google map app if we are lost.

5. AA or RAC recovery in breakdown situations.

Today, "molesting" a banknote is the same with "molesting" a coin in the past. Who care about its rarity , when and where was printed, rare or unusual serial number. It is only a circulated money note, ready to be spent in the first supermarket. It is coming another one from ATM or at next payday.

It is very interesting also the transition period from gold/silver to paper, but before modern technology. The money-jewellery with hidden emergency banknote are beautifully made and very sophisticated. 

All the best!

Stefan.

[Aldebaran]

Thank you!!!

I really like pendants, some of the designs are beautiful, and so varied. But do understand that some folks think that they are a ‘waste’ of a sovereign.

I like the idea of the transition from gold to silver and then cash………then bitcoin maybe, a rare number.

Life is good 😊

Edited April 24, 2023 by Aldebaran
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[mffiv]

I think sovereign jewellery is beautiful. I enjoy looking at the different mounts both for rings and pendants - there’s some really interesting and unique examples sometimes.

This recently sold on eBay which I think is lovely for a ladies piece.

[Aldebaran]

6 hours ago, mffiv said:

I think sovereign jewellery is beautiful. I enjoy looking at the different mounts both for rings and pendants - there’s some really interesting and unique examples sometimes.

This recently sold on eBay which I think is lovely for a ladies piece.

That’s a lovely piece, I haven’t looked on eBay for ages, will have to do so - Maybe we can bid against each other😆

[mffiv]

3 hours ago, Aldebaran said:

That’s a lovely piece, I haven’t looked on eBay for ages, will have to do so - Maybe we can bid against each other😆

Here’s a good jeweller if you’re interested in sovereign jewellery:

https://www.miltonsdiamonds.com/search/sovereign#sort7

I’ve seen some unique items there, like this previously sold sovereign locket:

Edited April 25, 2023 by mffiv

[Aldebaran]

36 minutes ago, mffiv said:

Here’s a good jeweller if you’re interested in sovereign jewellery:

https://www.miltonsdiamonds.com/search/sovereign#sort7

I’ve seen some unique items there, like this previously sold sovereign locket:

Thank you, I have looked at the site and I have one just like this 🥳