Checking the Mint Mark

[DrDave]

Hi guys!

Is this a Sydney mint mark, or am i seeing something thats not there?

Thanks in advance

[Orpster]

I don't see anything Dave, well maybe a little wiggle but not a mint mark

[DrDave]

2 minutes ago, Orpster said:

I don't see anything Dave, well maybe a little wiggle but not a mint mark

So that means London then?

I wasn't sure how obvious the mark would generally be

Edited September 6, 2022 by DrDave

[Orpster]

1 minute ago, DrDave said:

So that means London then?

 

Yep, 

[Orpster]

Here's a Melbourne, excuse my photography skills not a patch on yours  

[DrDave]

Just now, Orpster said:

Here's a Melbourne, excuse my photography skills not a patch on yours  

Ok. Yes the mark is very obvious. Many thanks

[Britannia47]

I’ve tried to put together a photo of the 6 overseas minted sovereigns, but failed miserably. What I needed was your photographic skills and a macro lens! Just to confirm then, that if you see nothing obvious on the ‘ground’ it’s the London Mint.

Basically they are all in the same place you were looking at - S.M.P. I. SA. C. Exceptions are with the Victoria Young heads where the mark is below the shield, or on the G&D actually on the obverse below the head.

Property, Photography, and a Vivid imagination should be very useful on TSF! 😀😀

7 hours ago, DrDave said:

Hi guys!

Is this a Sydney mint mark, or am i seeing something thats not there?

Thanks in advance

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by Britannia47

[SidS]

8 hours ago, DrDave said:

 

Is this a Sydney mint mark, or am i seeing something thats not there?

 

Maybe I'm seeing something that's not there as well, but is there something under that 8? Look inside the top loop.

I blame @LawrenceChard for this! Too much analysis of sovereigns in detail. He'll have us counting the total number of atoms next.

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by SidS

[DrDave]

1 minute ago, SidS said:

Maybe I'm seeing something that's not there as well, but is there something under that 8? Look inside the top loop.

I blame @LawrenceChard for this! Too much analysis of sovereigns in detail. He'll have us counting the total number of atoms next?

 

LOL. Maybe is an 8 over 7!! Now that'd be a first 💰💰💰

[LawrenceChard]

9 hours ago, DrDave said:

Hi guys!

Is this a Sydney mint mark, or am i seeing something thats not there?

Thanks in advance

 

9 hours ago, Orpster said:

I don't see anything Dave, well maybe a little wiggle but not a mint mark

Now if you just tweaked the lighting slightly to have a liitle more from "below", it would be clearer.

From your macro, it is difficult to be certain, but I think the "S" is imaginary, therefore a London Mint.

Having recently said that your photos are excellent, you go and let me down!

Here is a quick mintmarks guide:

https://goldsovereigns.co.uk/mintsandmintmarks.html

but images are only 400 pixels wide.

😎

[LawrenceChard]

1 hour ago, SidS said:

Maybe I'm seeing something that's not there as well, but is there something under that 8? Look inside the top loop.

I blame @LawrenceChard for this! Too much analysis of sovereigns in detail. He'll have us counting the total number of atoms next.

 

About 9.43x10^26 atoms, but we have not actually tried counting them yet, and this is only a first order approximation.

😎

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by LawrenceChard

[SidS]

Just now, LawrenceChard said:

About 9.43x10^26 atoms, but we have actually tried counting them yet, and this is only a first order approximation.

😎

 

Darn it my coin's three atoms light, it must be fake!

[LawrenceChard]

37 minutes ago, DrDave said:

LOL. Maybe is an 8 over 7!! Now that'd be a first 💰💰💰

You think so?

https://goldsovereigns.co.uk/1880over1870overdate.html

But it looks like we need to re-shoot!

 

[DrDave]

6 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

 

Now if you just tweaked the lighting slightly to have a liitle more from "below", it would be clearer.

From your macro, it is difficult to be certain, but I think the "S" is imaginary, therefore a London Mint.

Having recently said that your photos are excellent, you go and let me down!

Here is a quick mintmarks guide:

https://goldsovereigns.co.uk/mintsandmintmarks.html

but images are only 400 pixels wide.

😎

In defence i didn't shoot this with that detail in mind. I'll do another image tomorrow and we'll know for sure

[DrDave]

1 minute ago, LawrenceChard said:

You think so?

https://goldsovereigns.co.uk/1880over1870overdate.html

But it looks like we need to re-shoot!

 

No. I'm thinking that mine was a 1780 changed to an 1880 😂

[SidS]

Just now, DrDave said:

No. I'm thinking that mine was a 1780 changed to an 1880 😂

I think we've all seen the quality of workmanship from the 1850s-60s era RM and how many overdates, over letters, etc. Nothing would surprise me if an employee stamped the wrong number in the wrong place.

[LawrenceChard]

43 minutes ago, DrDave said:

No. I'm thinking that mine was a 1780 changed to an 1880 😂

If it is, I'll swap you for a guinea.

😎

41 minutes ago, SidS said:

I think we've all seen the quality of workmanship from the 1850s-60s era RM and how many overdates, over letters, etc. Nothing would surprise me if an employee stamped the wrong number in the wrong place.

One did, but he was given his P44

😎

[Britannia47]

How dare you malign those apprentices with their hammers! How were they to know that 150+ Yrs  in the future, a hyper critical forum would be formed to expose their shoddy work? Hang on, what’s changed!……😁

[LawrenceChard]

12 minutes ago, Britannia47 said:

How dare you malign those apprentices with their hammers! How were they to know that 150+ Yrs  in the future, a hyper critical forum would be formed to expose their shoddy work? Hang on, what’s changed!……😁

Now we have the internet instead of print media!