Thoughts on two silver half crowns - fake?

[Penfold]

Aquired these two recently. Looking for people's thoughts on the top two. The bottom one in each pic weighs right etc so presuming that one's ok.

The other two however both weigh about 13.6g and the middle one is ever so slightly magnetic.... 🤦‍♂️.

Thanks

[MikeG1978]

Magnetic  as in similar to the way silver reacts or sticking ?

It shouldn't do either as only 50%

Did you pay a much for these as cant see it worth copying these 

[Penfold]

@MikeG1978 the middle coin it ever so slightly sticks very weakly so doing the slide test it will stop when at 45 degrees. The top coin the magnet slides too fast. And nah didn't pay a great deal for them. Still a shame if they are fake.

[Gildeon]

The first two have considerable wear, so this doesn't sound strange in my opinion.

These coins are 50% silver, not sure about the rest. If it is Nickel for example, they must be somewhat magnetic. Not sure what their exact behavior with the magnet should be though.

[Notafront4adragon]

A specific gravity test would give you your answer. Well at least point you closer to the truth. You're looking for 9.65 for 50% silver.

Seems unlikely someone would fake them, but british crowns and half crowns do seem to be popular on eBay so I guess someone may see value in faking.

[MikeG1978]

 To be fair I was going to do a half crown run and will return to it a some point 

There are a lot available so I agree unlikely  they would be counterfeited but I know crowns are so who knows

So frustrating the market is flooded with trash 

Could do with a sigma tester or someone offering a test service on here for beer tokens  or a small fee 

That would be cool 

[Notafront4adragon]

7 minutes ago, MikeG1978 said:

 To be fair I was going to do a half crown run and will return to it a some point 

There are a lot available so I agree unlikely  they would be counterfeited but I know crowns are so who knows

So frustrating the market is flooded with trash 

Could do with a sigma tester or someone offering a test service on here for beer tokens  or a small fee 

That would be cool 

I've been considering getting one and offering just that kinda of service. 

[Martlet]

Would anyone fake these coins, to a low grade?  

[Shinus73]

42 minutes ago, MikeG1978 said:

Did you pay a much for these as cant see it worth copying these 

This was once currency and in it’s day would have been copied in the same way every other currency is.

[Notafront4adragon]

4 minutes ago, Martlet said:

Would anyone fake these coins, to a low grade?  

There's plenty of alloys that would be far cheaper than silver so it's worth it in numbers. If I were a counterfeiter I'd prefer to fake a low grade one because; easier to copy as you don't have to get all the detail, and there's less chance of people even checking as they assume what's the point so I can continue for longer before folk notice.

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2 minutes ago, Shinus73 said:

This was once currency and in it’s day would have been copied in the same way every other currency is.

What he said

[MikeG1978]

1 minute ago, Shinus73 said:

This was once currency and in it’s day would have been copied in the same way every other currency is.

Suppose your right as it would have been worth more then 

It's frustrating as if fake they should be destroyed or marked save them doing the rounds

[MikeG1978]

Worth keeping in a fake stack 🤔

[Shinus73]

2 minutes ago, MikeG1978 said:

Worth keeping in a fake stack 🤔

I keep a large collection of fakes in my dummy safe.

[MikeG1978]

Fair play I thought of doing the same as when in a hurry easy quick finds are more likely to be taken

 

[Martlet]

3 minutes ago, Notafront4adragon said:

There's plenty of alloys that would be far cheaper than silver so it's worth it in numbers. If I were a counterfeiter I'd prefer to fake a low grade one because; easier to copy as you don't have to get all the detail, and there's less chance of people even checking as they assume what's the point so I can continue for longer before folk notice.

I see your point, though to this low quality? I've seen a lot of the fakes being churned out, if they're "worn" its a rare year or mint mark to sucker people in.   

Hadnt considered being a vintage fake, that does make more sense for me. 

[Penfold]

Aye that's my thinking that maybe they are historical fakes from when they would of been in use. 

Ok guess these are coming out of my little collection untill a time that they ever get tested.

Cheers people.