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Has the secondary silver market hit the market saturation point.
arphethean replied to Fenlander1's topic in Silver
Thanks for your insight. Appreciate it -
completed 2020 1oz gold Britannia. Date stamp. £1860
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Looking for a sale on this so if you want to make an offer over spot, please do. -
completed Spot gold - half sovereigns, sovereign, 20 francs.
arphethean posted a topic in UK (Ungraded)
Some gold items available here Prices plus post Half sovereigns - £215 each (under spot) SOLD 2010 Sovereign in RM seal - £430 (under spot) 1912 sovereign - lovely condition - please ask for photos! - £430 Swiss 20 franc (6.45g .900 gold - 5.8g fine) - £340 (spot is £345) SOLD 1/10 ounce Britannias - 1996, 2017 (£190 each) and 2022 (£195) in RM capsule -
Beautiful charming item here 9ct bracelet with lots of lucky symbols, animals and various other cute things. Every link and dangly hallmarked 375. Spot posted Special Delivery £830 (£22.30/g)
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I have for sale a beautiful gold Britannia from 2020 in date stamp slab £1860 posted Special Delivery
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completed Gold bars for sale: 007 No Time to Die 1oz and 50g/100g Baird Cast bars
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Elseplace. -
completed Gold bars for sale: 007 No Time to Die 1oz and 50g/100g Baird Cast bars
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Cast bars sold -
for sale 2013 Perth Mint Quarter ounce gold proof Prince George coin
arphethean posted a topic in UK (Ungraded)
2013 Perth Mint 1/4 oz Gold Proof coin commemorating birth of Prince George. Lovely condition Complete with box and COA £460 plus £8 post -
completed Gold bars for sale: 007 No Time to Die 1oz and 50g/100g Baird Cast bars
arphethean posted a topic in UK (Ungraded)
I have for sale these 3 gold bars All prices include fully insured Special Delivery postage. Discount available if you want to buy multiple bars 007 1oz No Time To Die gold bar in original TEP at £1900 Baird 50g cast bar at £2920 (spot plus post) SOLD Baird 100g cast bar at £5830 (spot plus post) SOLD -
Has the secondary silver market hit the market saturation point.
arphethean replied to Fenlander1's topic in Silver
There is still a lot of confusion around secondary market and the primary market. Secondary market concerns all of us, and even dealers, and vat is not a factor. The reason is the second hand vat scheme. You do not automatically lose vat when you buy from or sell to a dealer. You lose whatever the difference in dealers sell/ buy prices and secondary market prices. Ignore vat. Dealers can afford to buy silver at any price below the price they sell at. They do not add on 20% to the whole! They only pay vat on their profit. They could buy your ounce at £22 and sell at £22.25, paying only 5p vat. Don't assume any vat registered dealer can only pay spot. Most pay more. The secondary market has over the past two years been heavily eroded by a small number of people steadily or sometimes dramatically undercutting everyone else, which has led to premiums on 2nd hand silver being reduced approximately to parity with USA and other silver vat free countries, I.e less than spot plus vat. It only affects big dealers selling Virgin silver with 20% vat on the whole price in the sense that low secondary market prices will knock demand for dealers' higher priced silver. The price of new silver from dealers will be determined by factors far bigger than the secondary market going rates. Cost of mining, refining, electricity, shipping, waste recovery etc etc etc. All of these factors are opaque and will have an influence on spot. The price of an ounce to a big dealer (who will have multi million £ annual contracts with mints and refiners) could be as little as spot plus 1% for all we know. Or why not even less? They add their margin and 20% on the whole. Their margin will be dictated by whatever their customers will pay but everything else is affected by macro factors. So £25.50 or any other price that we think is "right" will only happen if there are no people able or cunning enough to source silver cheaper and able to undercut everyone else. Just cause spot has gone up one can't assume the secondary market will automatically adjust. Though I bloody hope it will as I am still seeing ounces only selling if prices are less than £23. Fine for buyers I guess. But eventually I assume every buyer becomes a seller, right? -
closed Gold coins for sale including a rare quarter sovereign
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Thank you, it's yours -
closed Gold coins for sale including a rare quarter sovereign
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
I still have 2 sovereigns at £421 each (99% of spot) 1/20th ounce Maple at £93 2002 and 2005 sealed half sovereigns at £230 ea -
Have you checked the weight? Details seem good to me but I have seen weird defects on fakes
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It's an odd one! I don't think that's deliberately made. It's not a ding either as there is no distortion of the details around the notch. If the notch had been bright, I might suspect an unfortunate encounter with an angle grinder. Not really, but a abrasive corner of some description.
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I can't. I just have glasses.
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The later "BU" ones were different from bullion and more resembled proofs than bullion. This term was used for SOTD sovereigns. Not sure about 2012. Marsh mentions the strike on the day BU ones separately but doesn't mention 2012 in these. What I find most puzzling is NGCs MS DPL designation for 2012 quarter. This is the correct designation for the SOTD sovereigns (but are often incorrectly labelled PF UC. So what are these DPL 2012 quarters? And do they look more like bullion or proofs? Anyone with a graded MS 2012 quarter here?
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Try Nigel at https://philatelicheritage.co.uk/ He has some 20 francs on his website at £375 but will likely be amenable to meeting your budget by phone. Mention that I referred you.
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closed Gold coins for sale including a rare quarter sovereign
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Bump. Sovereigns under spot anyone? -
closed The humble thruppence. Some lovely high grade examples and date runs
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Update: I have acquired a couple of 1944 threepences and more 1943 and 1942s as well. Scarce coins! If you are looking for a date run or want these specific coins, please enquire. I replied and messaged you - not sure if you were interested to buy? -
closed Sterling and 999 silver very close to spot. Pope Paul II commemoratives
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Bump and reduced -
closed Large selection of sovereigns below spot
arphethean replied to BullionMan89's topic in UK (Ungraded)
Leave some for the rest of us -
closed Gold coins for sale including a rare quarter sovereign
arphethean replied to arphethean's topic in UK (Ungraded)
I'm sorry, all three now sold. But thank you for the offer