Von

Seller have some of same year but only this one with that dent. I changed it .

My worries was more for patina. Thanks.

looking the dent with seller glass make me think it was a mint issue, because a direct hit has to be very strong to produce a dent like that, look similar to a bubble or something present on the striking surface (sorry for my English)

Thanks. Yes patina worried  me because the two tone color, but seller had many of them of same year so i guess that maybe they were rolled in a tube directly from mint, who know. 
About that defect yes could be something that hit hard the surface. I think ill ask fir a change.

Hello, can i have your opinion about this sovereign patina -color and about the strange hit/defect on horse chest?

thanks

In your opinion a pinkish patina can turn yellow after a deep polish? I cleaned some coins gently but i obtained a shiny pink color, but i think jewelers use other methods maybe.

thanks 

Thanks. Just to be sure i mean that :

Thanks for the input. Measures and weight and thickness are tested and ok. 
 

i bought also a Victorian sovereign scale, i think that if it pass these test at least “at weight” value im safe.

Interesting what you say about owning gold until 1970, will try google that and see the story, I didn’t know that.

Hello, i want share two sovereign for two questions ( im new, have patience).

First question is about a shiny like mirror field 1982, compared to another older, wanted know if this year is like that…

…second question is about the edge of a Gillick (especially top left edge thickness on St.George side), if you see something wrong or if maybe was a mounted one.

thanks, and sorry for my English 😇

Interesting topic, even if it explains why gold tarnish, not because mine is more gold color, but maybe silver have something to do with that ( if not an heavy jeweler polish did)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1001052107600308

And a couple albertina chains. Sorry for the ot, i collected them for years

Another old silver cigarette case and some sovereign holder

Later i post some if my sovereign holders and silver chains. I used to collect them even if now im selling most of them

Thanks

They have a specific name? I can’t find them, its why i thought about made two bars to hold them (if i find these too)

Hello, years ago I bought this bice and engraved cigarette case in silver, but i need your help because idk where i can find the “bands” that keep the cigarettes.

Im also thinking to buy (where?) teo silver bands and try to make a metal band (without spring).

thanks

Hello, i use this thread because i have a similar question, for who is in silver melting etc.

I have really a lot of silver from family that I don’t want clean nor use so…

If i decide to made a brick from old spoons and silverware, what is the average and honest “lose of weight “ after the fusion?

And about purity, im thinking if is better to refine 0.800 silver to have a pure kg, or keep the 0.800 purity and made a 1250gr brick to have a pure kg inside (hope my English make ut understandable)

thanks

10 minutes ago, ChardsCoinandBullionDealer said:

Hi @Von. The right-hand coin looks cleaned. Possibly polished and used in jewellery. The photos aren't great so it's difficult to determine the authenticity solely from the provided photos. We would need to see it in person. 

A lot of fakes have the same specification as the genuine coin. 

We'll let him know he's being missed. 

Thanks for the reply. I think they come from a jewelry so maybe were hard polished yes.

About fakes, fir my math even if “fake”, if dimensions and weight are correct they still be gold, or at least not much less (i dont think tungsten is a possibility)

thanks

I think it’s alloy too, but for what i know silver is present in just some part per 1000.

The fact is that I don’t see just one like this , or few os same year. Im SURE i see some (9/10 in some years) of different years, all were gillick and one or two first crown portrait.

Strange that a forgery made fakes from many different years no?

But again, maybe im too picky and i pay too much attention.

As said, a friend assured me that he have 1/2 krug wich same “problem “.

Some silver have to be because if you use only gold and copper you obtain a brown/red one, like very recent ones.

Im not good with metallurgy but i think i am safe about near all gold content (as said if weight thickness and diameter is in specific i think it has to be gold), but can have a fake-not official sovereign or have one with a little less gold.

I posted because  i was curious if someone else have some “more yellow” sovereign, and if its a polish thing or an alloy one. 
 

8 minutes ago, Midasfrog said:

Removed from a sovereign mount ( has some marks on the rim )and polished by the gold smith . If you need any more let me know 😂

Don’t think mounted, but I suspect jewelry polished them hard… but idk if you take a normal sovereign and polish it heavy, it will be like mine or a shining-pink/reddish one.

At least i think its gold, my ancient Victorian sovereign scale say that xd

coming from coin collecting and military medals collecting i am very paranoid on everything that is not textbook…

Is strange because some shining coin like 1982 ones are shining, but still remain pink reddish.

i ask myself also if some coin can have silver in the alloy…

@LaurenceChard if you want give an opinion, its welcome. I remember your scientific old thread about krugerrands.

@LawrenceChard miswrote sorry

Yes i read about that, but I thought it happened with old version sovereign only. I bought them bow and then at weight, no special added value.

Maybe i can ask at some UK big dealer? Maybe they see many of coins and can tell me their opinion, if they see them etc…

No, not for sure, come from an old jeweler of my city. 
For polishing i mean using a cloth like cape cod or similar. 
 

Honestly considering dimension and weight i think its  gold anyway, and in a percentage near or equal of a non shining one, but i still want understand better the thing and understand if its a “fake” ir not.

I own no krug, but as said a friend of mine noticed the same thing. But like me, he bought aniway after weight/dimension check.

Even changing positions the darker coun will always look different because details have more contrast, shining one not. Like make a picture of a oxidated silver coin near a fresh mint one. 

But returning at color issue, any here noticed this thing on their sovereign or krug?

Or tried polishing them? 

Consider bad pictures taken with an iphone and the fact the right one shine under light.

i post another comparison between two different coins, and not of same year,on the right a “shining one”, but   in this case the center is bright and shining, the border where is the writing is less shining with what it look like mint luster, like the left one.

I thought also that but my doubt is that polishing a sovereign it have to be yellow as right coin or if have to become shiny but a reddish shine. 
 

My little stack is in a bank box so can’t compare the others but im getting paranoid xd