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Yes indeed! Actually I'm wrong about my 2020 sovereigns - they do have the rosy look, now I compare them in the flesh, so to speak, with my 2021 Britannia. Visual memory plays strange tricks on one. Old age, I suppose.

Thank you. I understand, but the rose colour isn't really new at all, if it has been around since 1957? I'm a bit puzzled. I have two 2020 sovereigns that don't look very rosy. As to looks, I 'm not sure which I prefer. Probably the coins with silver in them. The rose colour is somewhat reminiscent of 14 carat gold.

I think I have found a good set of comparative photos - on Bullion by Post. I can see that the 2021 sovereign is indeed less yellowy gold in its colour than, say, the I oz Britannia, and the £2 sovereign looks positively pink. But the question of 'why?' remains.

Can some one please tell me what is the 'new' colour of the sovereign, and why has it occurred? Not easy to see on the photos, unless some one can point me to a particular dealer's photo. Thank you.

That is not encouraging news.

I think that this is a bad case of a false piece of advertising if two of us were misled. Ought to be reported to Trading Standards, but who can be bothered? I shall avoid HGM in the future.

Thank you. That makes sense, but why do HGM quote 'one ounce of fine gold' in their headline description? Seems like quite a bad case of misleading the customer. I now see that the fine print does give the accurate weight of fine gold. Roger

Actually two typos: the second is '2021' instead of '2012'. Must concentrate more at the back of the class.

Certainly looks like it, but what puzzles me is that HMG cite a 5% premium based on £1250 per ounce, which last obtained back in April 2012. Today the premium is more like 1 1/2%. Something must be wrong here. Of course, it could be my brain. Any ideas? Sorry - typo: should be HGM

Frenchie, You make some good points. If and when I have some more money, I'll look again at the Greyhound. To be honest, I find all of the Mint coins a bit ritzy-glitzy for my taste. I prefer those with some history and patina. That's why I have also ventured into the high value gold coins of the late Spanish and Portuguese Empires in the later 18th and early 19th centuries. And they certainly aren't making those anymore. Even when new, the mintages were pretty small - a few hundred thousand or less, and many/most will have disappeared with the years, like Victorian sovereigns. I like my coins to be interesting, and to be able to touch them, which is why I avoid the classified/certified ones in their plastic armour. Good luck with whatever you purchase. Roger

The Completer is (always has been?) more expensive than the 2021 Britannia, but it is a lovely looking coin and I have bought it as well as a Britannia. The Greyhound does not have the same presence as its predecessor 'Beasts', at least for me, though others may well like it. I always worry about the premium over bullion value that may be required: I hate to think what it now would be for the royal lion in the Beasts series - about 70 or 80 %? For the same reason, when I was buying Victoria 'Young Head, shield reverse' sovereigns, I never went after those with rare dates or errors, being content with the ordinary, but still attractive examples, usually ranging from 'Very Fine' to 'Extremely Fine', but nothing pricier than that.

I'm very grateful for these further replies and the information therein. I can only guess that the Mint kept the figures secret so as to give the impression that the mintages for the Beasts series were more limited than they really were. The probability of quite high numbers in each case for the bullion coins, plus the current large premiums needed to buy nearly all of the Beasts, puts me off any purchase. I think I'll stick to the 'ordinary' Britannias, if I can afford anything like that.

Have looked at 'Coin Sales', but they seem to list only the mintages for the proof coins, not the ordinary ones. Or have I missed something? Quite possible these days! Roger

Thank you very much for your helpful and prompt response. I will follow this up. Roger

As per the title really. Can anyone please tell me what the mintage numbers are - or were, to be more precise - for the individual Queen's Beasts 1 ounce gold coins? Also, what is , or is likely to be, the number for the current Completer 1 ounce coin? Many thanks.