pillowcat2012

Final update! 2 weeks ago I received the fake coin back in the post, with a different envelope and a hand-written address. I have no idea how this made it's way back to me. Maybe returned to my previous house and the new occupant repackaged and posted to me? I called PayPal to get the case re-opened stating it had turned up after being AWOL for a month, took hostage photos with the coin in front of The Times homepage with the day's date, and posted it back to the original sender with a hand drawn smiley face on a post-it. Just got the full refund today from PayPal!!!! JUSTICE (and I'm actually up £100 from RM's refund and PayPal's feel-sorry-for-me pay-out) The saga is finally over.

I can't reveal client name but they're there for 2023 sovereign, half sovereign, 2023 gold britannia terms. Site is due to be revamped due to terrible slow platform, but the pages are there In theory you can create 2024/2025 pages already, not in your navigation and have them sit there saying "awaiting stock". But if you've already got a strong website it's not necessary to get ahead early with the creation of these pages.

As part of my day job I suggested to a client, a London based bullion dealer, to create the 2023 pages for all their bullion ranges as people were already searching for them on Google and there was limited competition. When they receive the stock they're already up there on page one

It's OK I've come to terms now, bit of a rollercoaster. But the sunny weather has taken my mind off it. Aye I knew what I was getting into but it's the exit strategy which didn't work out. Lovely eagle you have there and that price! I bought a Krugerrand off someone with their original receipt from 1997... almost as much as it costs to fill my car up!

Final update: PayPal gave me £55 as a goodwill gesture and Royal Mail have just sent a cheque for £50+postage as on my lost item form I stated that it wasn't a genuine coin, it was a replica, therefore should be covered. If I had only posted it with Special Delivery it would have either got there or I would have been refunded. I am never sending anything any other way. A very valuable lesson. Disappointed in myself, disappointed in the system that has no allowances for a human touch. Just automated yes/no black/white. Seller responsive on eBay but just saying he's offended I've accused him of trying to defraud people and feels like I'm suggesting he is a delinquent because I gave a negative review (lol). Wonder if I'd paid £1450 he'd still have been offended. He probably needs the cash more than me. At least I've got a story out of this to warn others: Don't buy unless from a trusted source Don't post cheap Don't escalate to PayPal before eBay has completed their resolution process Don't be stupid

Auction ended yesterday, they were selling some gold bars - I've provided a screenshot. Just looked and my negative feedback has been removed! What the hell...

Update: I spoke to someone at PayPal that said if I had accidentally given the wrong tracking number, I can update it with them no problem. I promptly provided an updated tracking number for a parcel arriving today. I had forgotten to post it and obviously must have given the wrong details in the first place, oops. Parcel arrives today, I call back. Explain what the process is. It's the same woman I had complained to a few days ago about the item being lost who remembers me. I don't recognise her. She put me on hold for 10 mins... then comes back and says she knows I have posted something else out instead because she remembers our conversation and will close the case, because I had explained to her RM had lost the item earlier in the month. Absolutely does not pay to be honest at all with any of these companies. Scammer gets away, still has an eBay profile and there's no repercussions. I just lose my cash. He's selling FAKE GOLD items right now! Now I've lost my initial money, 2x postage, the fake item and been to the post office twice. Although I was annoyed earlier, I assumed I had some way out.... Now, I am raging. I cannot believe this guy has gotten away with it as every bloody failsafe is arbitrary black/white. Speak to a person they can't do anything outside the box. I cannot believe it...

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I just burst out laughing at sending the gold bars I've sent something of the same weight and size and value of the copy (under £5)

Yep that's me, I wrote that review after speaking posting, but before it was actually resolved. I cannot send back a duplicate/identical item as PayPal require the original item to be returned even if it's counterfeit. But you did give me an idea. If you've accidentally submitted the wrong tracking ID for your return, you can update it over the phone... I will update when I have news.

I see what you mean...

The link should take you to his profile but I've taken a photo here:

Thanks for all your comments, please realise I'm fully aware of what I was getting into with both myself and the seller thinking we've each got a great deal. I agree with all the points and I'm feeling sorry for myself (but you don't have to). I've posted here as a warning to others not to be as foolish as me! I think I am highlighting the fact that I foolishly though I was bulletproof via PayPal/eBay. I was the weakest link in the chain and I bungled the return but surprised that eBay/PayPal would not go above and beyond to protect me. I didn't even want an AGE I just thought why not try and see what happens. I've seen sovereigns just listed as "old gold coin" due to uninformed sellers and I was looking to take advantage of this. Yes, yes, not very nice. I blame myself for being naïve/greedy. I thought I had zero risk due to PayPal/eBay and if it wasn't genuine (which it likely was at that price and... going by the poor quality photos...) then I just get a return and no problem. The lynchpin I was hoping to get out of it all was that the seller had listed it clearly as gold. Which is against eBay/PayPal trading policy. I am just astounded that RM bloody lost the parcel which foiled my plan. Here's the seller, he's selling some jewellery and Umicore gold bars. I'd avoid this person, who knows if his other items are genuine or not. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265763887847?hash=item3de0c31ae7:g:~tUAAOSwirpitu4F All in all, a very valuable lesson and I've got a story to share with the community. Alarm bells ringing all over the place but doubling down is not a good plan. I've attached some photos to complete this sad debacle.

My last opportunity is to ask the seller to refund and I'll remove my negative feedback from him if he complies. But being bounded around is not fun, the poor eBay/PayPal reps didn't seem to be able to escalate and were locked into set responses. Thankfully I've not lost £1500+ just £300 + P+P / returns or so but it really stings. I was surprised that the auction ended that low, alarm bells did ring but I thought I'm covered regardless via PayPal. I've won auctions at low prices and the seller has cancelled on me before as they realise they've not got the price the wanted, but I've also gotten some genuinely great deals from job lots / estate sales over the years where the seller isn't aware of the value.

Sharing my story, perhaps some of you have had similar experience that can give me solace. In May I won an auction on eBay for a 1 Oz American Gold Eagle. Seller was legitimate, with good feedback and several other coin auctions. Item described as Gold, composition gold, described as 1 Oz Gold Eagle. Paid via PayPal. Item arrived and it was a fake, magnetic wrong colour wrong weight. Complete misrepresentation on eBay by the seller. No problem, I'm covered, right? I contacted the seller who said as much that he knew it was a fake despite the description and refused a refund. I contacted PayPal who opened and closed an eBay dispute (locking me out of any action via eBay), said not to worry I am entitled to a full refund as soon as the item is returned as it's clear misrepresentation. Sent me some postage information and I went to Royal Mail to send the package back to the original address. Paid with proof of postage, next day signed for. Coin in a capsule, in cardboard, in a bubble wrapped manilla envelope totally encased in parcel tape. Fast forward 4 weeks the parcel has not arrived. Royal Mail confirm it has been lost and offered the refund the postage cost, said that as the item is a valuable coin it is not covered by 1st class insurance. In hindsight I should have paid for special delivery. PayPal refuse to pay as they require attempted delivery as a minimum. eBay said it's with PayPal and no further action is possible via eBay. Seller refuses to reply to me. All in all a big disaster and I've taken a huge financial loss. The frustrating part is PayPal's instructions for me to post an item myself where the chain of custody is then between myself and Royal Mail. I cannot open a case against the buyer on eBay as it's been closed (as PayPal have taken over) and PayPal will automatically close the case in the seller's favour as they haven't received their counterfeit item back. PayPal said they would re-open the case if I ever become aware of a delivery attempt being made, but the delivery tracker will expire soon and the service advisor said the item has probably been destroyed and is unlikely to be either returned to me or a delivery attempt made. Wonder if anyone else has had a similar experience, or advice? Could I contact the police about someone selling counterfeits? I have this persons name and address? He said he knows it's fake and it's my fault for not realising (despite the description). Thanks for reading.

I have cracked open the case. On closer inspection a few flecks appeared just to be pieces red fluff I need to get these guys into a safe place. Attached some photos. I think I will get them graded and then I can rest easy knowing I won't damage them.

Hello everyone, I have recently acquired a 1952 George VI South Africa Proof Set which has been sealed in acrylic for at least the last 40 years. Bit of history: provenance receipt says one owner in S.A. paying 440 Rand in 1984! Owner from Namibia, I acquired in the UK and it's interesting to see these coins have already been on a journey. I was unable to get my hands on a George VI proof Sovereign so this looked like a great alternative option. It appears this proof set was put into a sealed container in the 1980 rather than the original case and the coins rattle around against the case which I am worried about. My questions are regarding conservation and damage prevention - Should I look at cracking this open and getting the coins into flips? I've not handled proof coins before so I am very worried about scratching them and very worried about their current container rattling. Should I get all coins graded and protected or just the gold? I see there are full proof sets that have been encapsulated and would like to store them this way: https://coins.ha.com/itm/south-africa/world-coins/south-africa-george-vi-proof-set-1952-total-9-coins-/a/231449-61334.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 The toning on the coins, the gold coins have tiny rust marks (I'd like to get these removed via the conservation option at NGC) but the coppers and silvers I am unsure about. I've added a couple photos for you guys to enjoy. I'd love to get a better photo but it'll only be after I crack open this case. Happy to hear your thoughts. Thanks A