Yorky

Yeah exactly the same... is that made with the previous coin stuck to the press? Then removed and repressed?? 

2 hours ago, sg86 said:

Yes of course there are many 1s, I have 6, there would have been around 20,000 minted, I believe that's the correct approximate figure for a dies lifetime 

I see you are hoping this is a rare coin but unfortunately it isnt at all

Not hoping just wondering what the marks were? And when I looked online in the Marsh it did say none  for die 1, so everything is conflicting sometimes, like I say I’m a newbie and just wondering if anyone has seen any similar, I’ve bought and sold a few sovereigns now but not many at all, so every day is a learning curve, but obviously I’m looking for a rare one.. 😉

16 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

Interesting. You say they are quite common, do you have many examples. I have only seen the odd one for sale but never had one in my hand.

@sovereignsteve I haven’t seen one with the number 1 never mind the inclusions, if this is a gold disk that is stamped then how is the gold on the right a different shade? Is there anywhere I can send or bring this coin to be looked at? I’m in the Manchester area.. 

9 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

If you want to understand how coins get over date errors etc you need to research how they are produced. There is no casting process involves. Blank discs of gold are crushed between two metal dies so as to imprint the design on both sides.

@sovereignsteve thanks for that mate, every day is a school day to me and I know nothing about the subject to be honest, very newbie and any help would be much appreciated. 

Hi @sg86 so the square at the top is neck from the front as it has been Cast and neck has come through? I was looking at the Marsh book and for some time on the 1872 die cast number 1 it did say none in a few of the books but in the latest edition it has number 1 listed,  I haven’t seen another number 1 or a full shield back with these inclusions on them.. is there any more number 1 die cast out there? I have seen plenty of other casts.. 3 5 6 22 56.. of it is common then it just another sovereign then?? 

Hi @sg86 the top right of the crown the square imprint, also looks like a later smelt was poured at the time with the gold colour change quite noticeable, and there is a No 1 at the bottom with a rim running through it across the bottom. 

Evening all. 
I was wondering if anyone had seen an 1872 Queen Victoria young head die cast number 1? 
I believe these are rare because of the errors on them, apparently a lot of them were smelted down to cast other coins.