2017 Dragon and Phoenix mint error?

[Alex]

Hi,

Firstly,please pardon my english. I`m new to stacking and just got my first order.In the middle of the ball there`s a ''frosted'' ''dot''.It does not look damaged or caused by the abrasion of the coin against the capsule.Please have a look at the photos under the glass.What`s your thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

[fehk2001]

16 minutes ago, Alex said:

Hi,

Firstly,please pardon my english. I`m new to stacking and just got my first order.In the middle of the ball there`s a ''frosted'' ''dot''.It does not look damaged or caused by the abrasion of the coin against the capsule.Please have a look at the photos under the glass.What`s your thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

hi and welcome, looks like a finger print mark to me

 

[Alex]

The smallest man on earth must be . It`s a 1 oz coin,not the size of a 17'' car wheel.

[Clens92]

I'd agree with Fekh - it looks like oil residue.  But it's so dead-centre that it makes me think that there might have been some die damage which was been impressed onto your coin.

Worth an email to the mint?  Possibly.

[Alex]

I`m not looking to get rich ,I`m just afraid it`s going to be hard to sell it in the future.If it`s oil,pure acetone should dissolve it,right?

 

[Alex]

Pure acetone did nothing,it`s still there 

[fehk2001]

25 minutes ago, Alex said:

I`m not looking to get rich ,I`m just afraid it`s going to be hard to sell it in the future.If it`s oil,pure acetone should dissolve it,right?

 

it is not hard to sell, maybe EBAY auction then add on a few quid on top to get a new one, saves some FAIRY liquid and time to fix the problem

[Agpanda]

What equiptment have you used to get such close up pics?

[fehk2001]

1 hour ago, Bosse68 said:

What equiptment have you used to get such close up pics?

Marco lens for iPhone , cheap solution 

[Alex]

Jewellers Lens Glass Loupe 30X & 60X and Sony Z2. The pictures have been cropped.

[Orchestral]

I've just picked up one with a very similar mark, apologies for the poor pictures.

[barney]

Looks like a small graze to the mirror finish to  me, i assume the small dome on the medal is the highest part of the re leaf  on the medal, so it been slide across a surface or stacked at some point in its life so i don't think  you will be able to get rid of it

[SilverSniper]

I had a 1oz Noah's Ark with a similar mark.  Turn out to be a contact mark with the inside of the coin capsule.  When I held the empty coin capsule up to the light, I could see a semi-circular wear mark where the raised part of the coin (the sun on this occasion) had been rubbing on the inside of the capsule.

[SilverBeast]

You missed the real error on this coin. Behind the phoenix's head there is a small area that is supposed to be frosted. on your coin it is proof-like. Look at other examples online. I have a roll of these with the same error. Makes me wonder how rare these will be. Mine however are undamaged.

[Orchestral]

So I had, thanks for pointing that out @SilverBeast. You might be right there @shortstack68I'm not particularly encouraged, though that may be more due to the damage to the coin, QEII is also scratched and there's a smudge on the 2017. Always a shame when you buy a coin for it's aesthetics. Never mind.

 

[Orchestral]

I believe someone suggested the Australian design plagiarized from the Chinese Nanjing Dragon and Phoenix medal. Chinese IP being copied? How funny. I'll see if I can find the topic.

[Orchestral]

It was a guy named Badon on reddit. Link here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/comments/5bcyic/example_of_australias_perth_mint_2017_right/

 

 

[SilverSniper]

On 1/28/2017 at 10:47, SilverBeast said:

You missed the real error on this coin. Behind the phoenix's head there is a small area that is supposed to be frosted. on your coin it is proof-like. Look at other examples online. I have a roll of these with the same error. Makes me wonder how rare these will be. Mine however are undamaged.

 

@SilverBeast It took me a while to realise the area you meant, but I see it now.  Mine have the same proof-like area too (as do many images on the Internet).