Help Needed, Grandmother died, would love to idenitfy the age of her ring

[benwandrews]

Hello kind people, I have a ring passed down from my grandmother (grew up in Kent and lived in Hampshire, UK), its a signet ring, and the only hallmark that is still elligible is the final N. Does anyone know anything about that specific N that could help me find out anything about the ring?  I doubt it was my grandmothers ring who was born in 1919, as ladies didnt recieve signet rings back then, so it might have been her fathers (as she only had sisters) or someone elses. It would mean alot to me to learn more about the ring if possible. 

Thanks you in advance, Ben ( from London)

 

[BackyardBullion]

Looks like a 1987 hallmark.

Cannot see which assay office though, but that shape is the correct one for this year and all the assay offices used it. 

https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/London/Cycle 1975-1999.html

[benwandrews]

Thank you very much for the identifying the age for me, raises more quetions than it answers, but still good to have a date confirmed! Will check out your channel, thanks! Ben 

[Zhorro]

16 hours ago, BackyardBullion said:

Looks like a 1987 hallmark.

Cannot see which assay office though, but that shape is the correct one for this year and all the assay offices used it. 

https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/London/Cycle 1975-1999.html

 

21 minutes ago, benwandrews said:

Thank you very much for the identifying the age for me, raises more quetions than it answers, but still good to have a date confirmed! Will check out your channel, thanks! Ben 

I'm afraid I am not convinced this is the correct year.  The "N" in the picture does not have a foot on the left-hand side.

The problem is not having the assay office as each office seems to have different letters for different years.  Also the list used only goes back to 1975, but of course "N" was used multilpe times before then.

[BackyardBullion]

53 minutes ago, Zhorro said:

 

I'm afraid I am not convinced this is the correct year.  The "N" in the picture does not have a foot on the left-hand side.

The problem is not having the assay office as each office seems to have different letters for different years.  Also the list used only goes back to 1975, but of course "N" was used multilpe times before then.

You can see all the historical N's and there has not been another N in the same shape as on this ring. 

https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/London/Date Letters N.html

[Petra]

1 hour ago, benwandrews said:

Thank you very much for the identifying the age for me, raises more quetions than it answers, but still good to have a date confirmed! Will check out your channel, thanks! Ben 

Isn’t it a gold ring?

[Petra]

Chester 1913? Glasgow 1910?

Edited October 26, 2022 by Petra
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[Seasider]

4 minutes ago, Petra said:

Chester 1913? Glasgow 1910?

Too curly

It is odd that the other marks should be so worn out on a ring that dates to 1987.

Perhaps a pencil and a bit of paper might help us see what the other marks are.

[Britannia47]

1 hour ago, Seasider said:

Too curly

It is odd that the other marks should be so worn out on a ring that dates to 1987.

Perhaps a pencil and a bit of paper might help us see what the other marks are.

I agree. Although the 'N' appears similar to 1987 it doesn't seem to match the story. It looks like the hallmarks have been deliberately erased to disguise the quality of the gold, for whatever reason. Perhaps its only 9ct gold from Romford Market! Get it tested.....I could be wrong.

[Mobius]

After a quick shuffty through my hallmark books, it looks like it can only be 1987.
The assay office could be either London, Birmingham or Edinburgh for that year tho.

 

[Petra]

Sure it’s actually gold? Needs testing. Could be fake hall mark?

[benwandrews]

Thank you so much for all your thought, input and consideration, it means a great deal. 

I do suspect the ring is older then 1987, as the ring itself is very aged and worn, please see some more attachments of the ring, as you can see the signet (which is engraved on this hip flask attached) has all but worn out on the ring (see attcehd) and the ring is very smooth and worn. It maybe a low quality gold, but even if it were, I wouldnt expect it to be that worn if it were only from 1987. My dad has a signet from the 1970's which looks alot younger than my ring that my Gran gave me when she died. My gran was 93 when she died back in 2014. 

Any other thoughts and suggestions would be welcomed. 

I will get it tested as soon as I can. 

THanks,

Ben 

[Bogart]

First step is find out what it is made of, go from there.

[KevjustKev]

When did your grandmother married? Nearest N to that date?