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Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

1887 Victoria Golden Jubilee Gold and Silver Set - Spot the Boob!

1887SovereignSpecimenSetGoldandSilverBUSovereignVictoriaJubileeHeadCoinWithBoxUnitedKingdomTheRoyalMint11Coinsreversedesignsinboxcrop.thumb.jpg.f44480cb25bc0a97171e6a5f5d3138bd.jpg

No prizes!

😎

That's one big shilling!

To say nothing of the florin.

They swapped bodies or something?

The whole set is clearly fake therefore...

Edited by SidS
Posted
1 hour ago, SidS said:

That's one big shilling!

To say nothing of the florin.

They swapped bodies or something?

The whole set is clearly fake therefore...

That's one big shilling! - Correct!

To say nothing of the florin. - What's wrong with it?

They swapped bodies or something? - Something like that!

The whole set is clearly fake therefore... - No, it's all genuine!

But...

 

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Posted (edited)

Is it the ‘bar maids grief’, or the version of the sixpence which ended up being changed due to its similarity to the half sovereign?🤔

Edited by Petra
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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

That's one big shilling! - Correct!

To say nothing of the florin. - What's wrong with it?

They swapped bodies or something? - Something like that!

The whole set is clearly fake therefore... - No, it's all genuine!

But...

 

It must be a pattern set? The florin has the shilling design and the shilling has the florin design.

Are they cardboard cutouts? 😁

Chocolate coins? 😁

Edited by SidS
Posted
43 minutes ago, Petra said:

Is it the ‘bar maids grief’, or the version of the sixpence which ended up being changed due to its similarity to the half sovereign?🤔

No!

😎

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Posted
27 minutes ago, SidS said:

It must be a pattern set? The florin has the shilling design and the shilling has the florin design.

Are they cardboard cutouts? 😁

Chocolate coins? 😁

It must be a pattern set?

No.

The florin has the shilling design and the shilling has the florin design.

You are very close!

😎

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Posted (edited)

Alright one last guess. The shilling is it's normal design, and the other coin which is in between the sixpence and the shilling is an eightpence pattern coin. I know they did several of these patterns over the years, but never went with it.

Although looking at the sovereign, I'd still wager my original guess was closer to the truth.

Some kind of cockup at the mint? Not that such things ever occurred.

Edited by SidS
Posted
9 hours ago, Foster88 said:

No way is that case 135 years old.

I am sure you are right, but that was not the answer I was looking for.

Thousands of 1887 non-proof jubilee sets have been made up over the years, so different cases have probably been made in every decade since.

😎

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Posted
16 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

1887 Victoria Golden Jubilee Gold and Silver Set - Spot the Boob!

1887SovereignSpecimenSetGoldandSilverBUSovereignVictoriaJubileeHeadCoinWithBoxUnitedKingdomTheRoyalMint11Coinsreversedesignsinboxcrop.thumb.jpg.f44480cb25bc0a97171e6a5f5d3138bd.jpg

No prizes!

😎

16 hours ago, westminstrel said:

Pesky £5 coin? 👀

16 hours ago, SidS said:

That's one big shilling!

To say nothing of the florin.

They swapped bodies or something?

The whole set is clearly fake therefore...

14 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

No!

😎

14 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

That's one big shilling! - Correct!

To say nothing of the florin. - What's wrong with it?

They swapped bodies or something? - Something like that!

The whole set is clearly fake therefore... - No, it's all genuine!

But...

 

14 hours ago, Petra said:

Is it the ‘bar maids grief’, or the version of the sixpence which ended up being changed due to its similarity to the half sovereign?🤔

13 hours ago, SidS said:

It must be a pattern set? The florin has the shilling design and the shilling has the florin design.

Are they cardboard cutouts? 😁

Chocolate coins? 😁

13 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

It must be a pattern set?

No.

The florin has the shilling design and the shilling has the florin design.

You are very close!

😎

11 hours ago, SidS said:

Alright one last guess. The shilling is it's normal design, and the other coin which is in between the sixpence and the shilling is an eightpence pattern coin. I know they did several of these patterns over the years, but never went with it.

Although looking at the sovereign, I'd still wager my original guess was closer to the truth.

Some kind of cockup at the mint? Not that such things ever occurred.

I think that @DrDave would get the right answer.

@SemolinaPilchard already knows, so I hope he doesn't reveal the answer until later.

😎

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

I think that @DrDave would get the right answer.

@SemolinaPilchard already knows, so I hope he doesn't reveal the answer until later.

😎

Hmm?

Well, not being a coin expert, but have a little bit of history with photography, it looks like a composite image. So if you look closely at the coin in the middle (you see, i don't know Jack! 😊) the milled edge is very soft, ie not in focus) but the face of the coin is pin sharp front to back. The other coins are similar.

and on the right it has 2 milled edges!!

1887SovereignSpecimenSetGoldandSilverBUSovereignVictoriaJubileeHeadCoinWithBoxUnitedKingdomTheRoyalMint11Coinsreversedesignsinboxcrop.jpg.37628a425218a84c33ae0f34c94f3abc copy11.jpg

Edited by DrDave
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

I think that @DrDave would get the right answer.

@SemolinaPilchard already knows, so I hope he doesn't reveal the answer until later.

😎

oh, and the 2 sovereigns in the top centre are actually the same coin, just resized. There is a little toning on each at about 2o'clock which is identical

1887SovereignSpecimenSetGoldandSilverBUSovereignVictoriaJubileeHeadCoinWithBoxUnitedKingdomTheRoyalMint11Coinsreversedesignsinboxcrop.jpg.37628a425218a84c33ae0f34c94f3abc copy.jpg

Edited by DrDave
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, DrDave said:

...and on the right it has 2 milled edges!!

1887SovereignSpecimenSetGoldandSilverBUSovereignVictoriaJubileeHeadCoinWithBoxUnitedKingdomTheRoyalMint11Coinsreversedesignsinboxcrop.jpg.37628a425218a84c33ae0f34c94f3abc copy11.jpg

How many denticles does that make then, do I have to count the doubled ones too?

I'll have to get Diane Abbott to help me. She says eleventy six.

Edited by SidS
Posted
4 hours ago, DrDave said:

Hmm?

Well, not being a coin expert, but have a little bit of history with photography, it looks like a composite image. So if you look closely at the coin in the middle (you see, i don't know Jack! 😊) the milled edge is very soft, ie not in focus) but the face of the coin is pin sharp front to back. The other coins are similar.

and on the right it has 2 milled edges!!

1887SovereignSpecimenSetGoldandSilverBUSovereignVictoriaJubileeHeadCoinWithBoxUnitedKingdomTheRoyalMint11Coinsreversedesignsinboxcrop.jpg.37628a425218a84c33ae0f34c94f3abc copy11.jpg

 

4 hours ago, DrDave said:

oh, and the 2 sovereigns in the top centre are actually the same coin, just resized. There is a little toning on each at about 2o'clock which is identical

1887SovereignSpecimenSetGoldandSilverBUSovereignVictoriaJubileeHeadCoinWithBoxUnitedKingdomTheRoyalMint11Coinsreversedesignsinboxcrop.jpg.37628a425218a84c33ae0f34c94f3abc copy.jpg

I expected some excellent forensic work, and got it.

You spotted something I had missed, @SemolinaPilchard, but missed my main point, which had been noted by @SidS, who came very close to the answer I was looking for.

😎

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