Why are all the coins/bars taken out of their original packaging on ads?

[Essendie]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb newbie question, but e.g. I bought a 5g gold bar (the only purchase I regret, should have got a small gold coin instead) & a 1oz silver 3 graces bar from the Royal Mint.

Both came in a card & they didn't seem to have any other way for me to buy them without being in the cards, so I never took them out.

When I see these items for sale anywhere else, they are never pictured in those cards.

On the Mint website, they also have things like a Sovereign sold sealed on a card, but nobody seems to ever advertise those second hand sealed up like that.

Why is that?

Is there some disadvantage to having them sealed in their original Mint packaging other than the extra space they take up?
 

[Darr3nG]

11 minutes ago, Essendie said:

Is there some disadvantage to having them sealed in their original Mint packaging other than the extra space they take up?

Absolutely not. Keep it in the mint packaging, unless you have no plan to sell...

[Essendie]

Thanks @Darr3nG, I have no plan to sell them unless I have no choice sometime in the future.

Do you know why they never seem to be for sale in the packs except at the Mint?

I understand with the coins, where people may have bought by the tube, but things like the 1oz 3 graces bar are all over the place not in the packet.

I missed the Una & the Lion one which I would have liked to get, but only see it for sale elsewhere in a clear little plastic box if at all.

[Darr3nG]

1 minute ago, Essendie said:

Do you know why they never seem to be for sale in the packs except at the Mint?

No idea.

But, when I started stacking silver I touched/held every piece I bought (long before knowing anything about proof/BU/etc.)... loved it... there's something really nice about holding pure silver (or gold) in your hand.

One of the first sales I had was here on the forum, and the buyer was very upset that the "bullion" silver was handled/tarnished, but when offered a full refund on return didn't accept.

 

My advice is, if you intend to sell it for profit in the future the more "mint" in packaging it is, the better. Same price, but no hassle!

[Shinus73]

4 hours ago, Essendie said:

Thanks @Darr3nG, I have no plan to sell them unless I have no choice sometime in the future.

Do you know why they never seem to be for sale in the packs except at the Mint?

I understand with the coins, where people may have bought by the tube, but things like the 1oz 3 graces bar are all over the place not in the packet.

I missed the Una & the Lion one which I would have liked to get, but only see it for sale elsewhere in a clear little plastic box if at all.

The Mint selling bullion sealed in cards is a recent development. Therefore, the vast majority will not be sealed in packaging.

[Scootermuppet]

It’s referred to as OMP - Original Mint Packaging, and as you say, you’re either in or out!

For me, it depends on the form of the packaging - the Una silver bars were in some kind of plastic pouch, which was horrible! But the 3 Graces packaging was a little better…But I’m coming to appreciate RM coins in those blister packs… for on thing they will keep the coins / bars mint for a very long time, and they do give a symmetry to a collection of coins in different sizes or types, as the cards are the same size.

There have been several posts about it here on the forum that might help you decide which way to go - here’s a good example…

but ultimately, they are your bars / coins so the decision is yours! ☺️

Hope that helps!

Bob

 

[Arcadian]

Part of the reason I buy forum bars is to have silver I can handle without a care.

[LawrenceChard]

15 hours ago, Essendie said:

I'm sorry if this is a dumb newbie question, but e.g. I bought a 5g gold bar (the only purchase I regret, should have got a small gold coin instead) & a 1oz silver 3 graces bar from the Royal Mint.

Both came in a card & they didn't seem to have any other way for me to buy them without being in the cards, so I never took them out.

When I see these items for sale anywhere else, they are never pictured in those cards.

On the Mint website, they also have things like a Sovereign sold sealed on a card, but nobody seems to ever advertise those second hand sealed up like that.

Why is that?

Is there some disadvantage to having them sealed in their original Mint packaging other than the extra space they take up?
 

There are numerous reasons coins and bars are often photographed naked, rather than in cards or capsules.

In the beginning, there was the coin.

And the coin was gold.

And the gold was a coin.

In those days, about 3,650 years ago, coins were made of electrum, which is a naturally occuring alloy of gold and silver.

Unfortunately, cameras had not been invented then, but some of these early coins still exist, and are rare and valuable.

Photography and cameras were not invented until 1826.

Plastic was not invented until 1907.

Between 1826 and 1907, it would not have been possible for coins to be photographed in plastic packaging.

Plastic covered sealed cards only started to be used for coins and bars quite recently, although I don't remember the date. 

Before then, all coin photos were done "naked", but in plastic.

It is much more difficult to take a good quality photo of a coin or bar through plastic. Therefore dealers who care about quality shoot their coins and bars naked. Even in cold weather.

Do you need to know any more?

😎

[Essendie]

LOL @LawrenceChard
I need to know so much more, but this forum isn't big enough, nobody has time or mental energy to tell me everything & I have to do some work so I can buy more coins!

I'd like to know what was minted in the Devon at the Lydford Mint & if a Lydford penny is within my price range for instance.
Without a sealed plastic case of course.

Thank you for sending me my Mayflower - arrived today looking good in it's (hopefully) original box & made me happy 🙂


 

[LawrenceChard]

31 minutes ago, Essendie said:

LOL @LawrenceChard
I need to know so much more, but this forum isn't big enough, nobody has time or mental energy to tell me everything & I have to do some work so I can buy more coins!

I'd like to know what was minted in the Devon at the Lydford Mint & if a Lydford penny is within my price range for instance.
Without a sealed plastic case of course.

Thank you for sending me my Mayflower - arrived today looking good in it's (hopefully) original box & made me happy 🙂
 

Your quest for greater knowledge is admirable.

I didn't know anything about your order for a "Mayflower", but am happy to have been able to supply it, and that you like it.

TBH, I was not even aware we had added a florist department.

I had to cut short my earlier response, or I would have been dragged out of, or locked inside, our showroom.

Where a product is usually sealed, we typically try to also include a photo of it in its presentation packaging, but often only when we have a quantity available, as there is a cost involved in removing it from a sealed card.

If we buy in a previously owned item, and it is not sealed, then we would normally be restricted to photographing it "as is".

Generally, it is advisable to retain it in its sealed card. Similar for third party graded "slabbed" coins, it would normally be silly to break them out, although we do have a specialised tool for the job:

Also handy for making your own "hammered" coins!

😎

[bluffer]

9 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

Your quest for greater knowledge is admirable.

I didn't know anything about your order for a "Mayflower", but am happy to have been able to supply it, and that you like it.

TBH, I was not even aware we had added a florist department.

I had to cut short my earlier response, or I would have been dragged out of, or locked inside, our showroom.

Where a product is usually sealed, we typically try to also include a photo of it in its presentation packaging, but often only when we have a quantity available, as there is a cost involved in removing it from a sealed card.

If we buy in a previously owned item, and it is not sealed, then we would normally be restricted to photographing it "as is".

Generally, it is advisable to retain it in its sealed card. Similar for third party graded "slabbed" coins, it would normally be silly to break them out, although we do have a specialised tool for the job:

Also handy for making your own "hammered" coins!

😎

looks more like a ban hammer to me 😇

[bluffer]

17 hours ago, Essendie said:

I'm sorry if this is a dumb newbie question, but e.g. I bought a 5g gold bar (the only purchase I regret, should have got a small gold coin instead) & a 1oz silver 3 graces bar from the Royal Mint.

Both came in a card & they didn't seem to have any other way for me to buy them without being in the cards, so I never took them out.

When I see these items for sale anywhere else, they are never pictured in those cards.

On the Mint website, they also have things like a Sovereign sold sealed on a card, but nobody seems to ever advertise those second hand sealed up like that.

Why is that?

Is there some disadvantage to having them sealed in their original Mint packaging other than the extra space they take up?
 

unless its like that shrink wrap that steaks come in, i will always keep the original packing.   if i ever sell, it gives the person who buys it the option of keeping it in or not.  then again i have a relatively small collection compared to most others on here so space is not a premium.

 

but looking at likes of so called circulated proofs on ebay, i will happily avoid unwrapped coins like the plague.  they may be real, they are probably arent, so thank you and next listing please.