Help with a project, understanding coinage laws

[Bigmarc]

Hello, I am working on a project for next year to do with engraving on an existing product. Years ago I had been asked to remove items as I was making plaques of military insignia's and any medals the individual had earned, turns out those designs belong to the crown and they want paying for it. 

So just a couple of questions to help me on my way, cheers. 

Coinage act, does a silver Britannia come under this bracket? If something like this was done on an existing coin then sold on, what are the legalities?

Over the years there has been plenty of jewelry available made from coins and wondered of the legality of it as it defaces the coin. 

Bars with the queen's head on. If I was to engrave part of a bar with the queen's head on, would this be allowed? 

I think I already know if I was to engrave a box with the Brit design on this would not be allowed but the Brit itself after purchase is a mystery.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2022 by Bigmarc

[LawrenceChard]

7 minutes ago, Bigmarc said:

Hello, I am working on a project for next year to do with engraving on an existing product. Years ago I had a telling off from the crown for making plaques of military insignia's and any medals the individual had earned, turns out those designs belong to the crown and they want paying for it. 

So just a couple of questions to help me on my way, cheers. 

Coinage act, does a silver Britannia come under this bracket? If something like this was done on an existing coin then sold on, what are the legalities?

Over the years there has been plenty of jewelry available made from coins and wondered of the legality of it as it defaces the coin. 

Bars with the queen's head on. If I was to engrave part of a bar with the queen's head on, would this be allowed? 

I think I already know if I was to engrave a box with the Brit design on this would not be allowed but the Brit itself after purchase is a mystery.

 

If you can get yourself a transfer to Kirkham open prison, I would be happy to come and visit you to explain where you went wrong.

😎

 

[Norskgeld]

These are freely available. Doesn't seem much different to me.

 

 

[Bigmarc]

What I am trying to say is, if I get a bar from the royal mint and engrave a design or a message on it, then sell it on as at a profit. Is there any law against it? 

[LawrenceChard]

On 30/09/2022 at 19:38, Norskgeld said:

These are freely available. Doesn't seem much different to me.

 

 

As are thousands of fake / imitation coins on AliExpress, ebay, and elsewhere.

Doesn't make it legal though!

😎

On 01/10/2022 at 10:50, Bigmarc said:

What I am trying to say is, if I get a bar from the royal mint and engrave a design or a message on it, then sell it on as at a profit. Is there any law against it? 

Bar? No!

Coin? Yes!

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[SidS]

Any Charles III 50ps yet on AliExpress? 😁

Wonder if they have an unlimited mintage?

Edited October 4, 2022 by SidS

[Arganto]

I went to Wookey Hole the other day (a very schizophrenic site but worth a look) and they had a penny press machine. There was a sign on it addressing the legality of pressing/defacing coins, which was at one point illegal but the illegal status was repealed by further legislation (counterfeit laws of one type or another). I have posted this before looking it up, so may be wrong, but it seems to me that what @Bigmarcis suggesting should be fine...