Great Engravers - Gothic Crown - Sneak Preview?

[LawrenceChard]

57 minutes ago, SilverJacks said:

Could you add a nose stud and some black eye liner…

Is this too subtle?

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[SilverJacks]

1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

To the coin design, or my avatar?

I never thought I'd string this sentence together, but I think a nose stud and black eyeliner would suit the Queen more than you

 

1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

Is this too subtle?

Perfect. The flippers will love it. Will sell out in under 5 min 💯

[HerefordBullyun]

8 hours ago, MancunianStacker said:

Yep, never mind north and south, it’s red or blue that’s the main point in Manchester. Wouldn’t pee on a Blue if he was on fire 🤣 

Tonight Matthew I will be unsubscribing from the MS YT Channel!

[MancunianStacker]

1 hour ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Tonight Matthew I will be unsubscribing from the MS YT Channel!

😂 

I just got a new sun from someone using a real name, so I’m guessing that’s not you 🤔 😆 

[Foster88]

On 28/07/2021 at 15:47, trozau said:

I hope they honor Wyon by picking his powerful rendition of St George slaying the dragon…

 

St George must have had terrible chafing being naked on that horse. 😆

[westminstrel]

25 minutes ago, Foster88 said:

St George must have had terrible chafing being naked on that horse. 😆

It is a gorgeous rendition though. I’d love if the RM would redo it. 

[RDHC]

7 hours ago, Foster88 said:

 

Did anyone try to make out the words, as I did? I was baffled since they weren't Latin (or Welsh - anther inaccurate guess of mine) and the Gothic script is difficult. With a little bit of research, I discovered that they are German: 'Treu und Fest', meaning 'True (or Loyal) and Steadfast'. A motto mostly associated with the kings of Bavaria, but here used or appropriated by or on behalf of Prince Albert, who was a Saxe-Coburg of course. 

[westminstrel]

1 hour ago, rdhcustance said:

Did anyone try to make out the words, as I did? I was baffled since they weren't Latin (or Welsh - anther inaccurate guess of mine) and the Gothic script is difficult. With a little bit of research, I discovered that they are German: 'Treu und Fest', meaning 'True (or Loyal) and Steadfast'. A motto mostly associated with the kings of Bavaria, but here used or appropriated by or on behalf of Prince Albert, who was a Saxe-Coburg of course. 

Indeed.  As you deciphered, it translates to something like “faithful and steadfast”. 

[westminstrel]

Deleted post: Sorry, wrong thread. 😅

Edited July 30, 2021 by westminstrel

[trozau]

25 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

@LawrenceChard - Any thoughts from you since you’ve probably seen many more of these than the average board member? 🙂

This is a medallic issue. The obverse is shown below.

Obverse: Head of Prince Albert right. ALBERTUS PRINCEPS VICTORIAE REGINAE CONJUX Below: 1845 Reverse: Equestrian figure of St George spearing the dragon left. TREU UND FEST in German script
 

[LawrenceChard]

11 minutes ago, trozau said:

 

 

Edited July 30, 2021 by LawrenceChard

[LawrenceChard]

10 hours ago, Foster88 said:

St George must have had terrible chafing being naked on that horse. 😆

Not as bad as the horse got later! 🙂

[dicker]

I wonder if we might get a rehash of the 1 Mohur…

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25925.html

[CollectorNo1]

6 minutes ago, dicker said:

I wonder if we might get a rehash of the 1 Mohur…

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25925.html

I hope not..😒

[LawrenceChard]

On 27/07/2021 at 18:41, LawrenceChard said:

Could this be the next coin in the Royal Mint's Great Engravers series:

or:

Just an idea!

 

The photos are of a medallic piece in hallmarked 9ct gold.

We found one in a 2012 London Coins auction described as a replica sovereign, and the sold price was £110. I don't know off-hand whether they charge a buyers' premium in addition.

Today, I got the opportunity to measure one of them 22.73mm diameter x 1.93mm thick. They actually looked far too big to be sovereigns, so I was surprised at the relatively small difference.

If my reading of the slighly obscure hallmark is correct, they were assayed at Birmingham in 2003, and the sponsor's mark appears to be POC.

Dumbo! I forgot to mention the weight 76.35 grams.

Correction: I think that should read 6.35 grams!

I must have been half asleep when I typed 76.25 grams. that would have been an impressive replica. 🙂

Edited August 1, 2021 by LawrenceChard
addendum

[dicker]

Wyon also did a rather good engraving to celebrate Victoria’s visit to the Corporation of London.

One thing I think that Wyon was especially good at was the framing and sizing of designs within the coin.  
 

He does not seek to fill the entire coin, but frame his engravings really rather well.

Best

Dicker

 

http://500years.royalmailgroup.com/gallery/william-wyon-1795-1851/

 

[GoodAsGold]

On 29/07/2021 at 11:31, westminstrel said:

We know the reverse of the 2022 Sovereign will be the Royal Coat of Arms design.  It would be a terrific surprise if the obverse is a special portrait too, like this.

Is that a fact about the reverse, my friend?  I must spend more time on the forum if I’m missing important info like this.

[CollectorNo1]

Well you and 99.9% of the TSF must  have inside information that the the reverse side of the 2022 will be the Royal coat of arms...IM IN THE 1% of people that doesn't know this until the day of issue...Guess I'm not in the clique or have the contacts  inside the RM like you have......😜😜😜😜😜😜😜

[AgAuEire]

2 hours ago, GoodAsGold said:

Is that a fact about the reverse, my friend?  I must spend more time on the forum if I’m missing important info like this.

Here you go

 

[westminstrel]

@GoodAsGold - Yes my friend. It’s from a gazette proclamation I found a few weeks back. Nice to see you on here again. Hope you’ve been well. 🙂

@CollectorNo1 - I wish I did belong to an exclusive Royal Mint clique. However it was just a bit of ocd checking the gazette every few days. 😝

[CollectorNo1]

11 hours ago, AgAuEire said:

Here you go

 

Looks like Harry n Megan....😯😯

[westminstrel]

5 hours ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Looks like Harry n Megan....😯😯

What the heck hahaha that was such an unexpected comparison and also funny in general. 😂

[GoodAsGold]

On 30/07/2021 at 22:42, AgAuEire said:

Here you go

 

Cheers for the link buddy. I was a bit stunned when I saw the caveman but thankfully that’s not it. Or hopefully that’s not it!

[GoodAsGold]

On 31/07/2021 at 02:57, westminstrel said:

@GoodAsGold - Yes my friend. It’s from a gazette proclamation I found a few weeks back. Nice to see you on here again. Hope you’ve been well. 🙂

 

Thank you sir. All is well. I’ll catch up with you very soon.

[fethiye2003]

Whatever one is released is there any chance of us getting one or are they already spoken for?

if so how ?