Precious metal verifiers

[Fadeingstar]

Hello forum,

I have thinking about getting a precious metal verifier seems like the sigma is the most common. How do you go about getting one in the UK? Seems like they are all in America and I expect the fees to import one would be dismal!!

If anyone know of an alternative to the sigma let me know please. 

[ady]

Hi Fadeingstar, I bought my Sigma from Zetberg in Slovenia which is one of Sigmas approved outlets. They were very good and the two companies answered a lot of questions I had. Zetberg did charge me the full amount with the tax by error and refunded it me before even I realised. You do have to pay the duty (VAT @ 20%) on import though, and I got a reference number from the tax office to pay it promptly. Once DPD notified me it was in the country I paid the dues and 2 days later delivered. It was about 10 days in total and fully tracked.

Comes with 24 month warranty, 12month for legal entities.

Hope not to long winded but any other questions get back to me.

[Tn21]

Do you mind sharing the total damage @ady

[ady]

1 hour ago, Tn21 said:

Do you mind sharing the total damage

All models are priced on the website, currency conversion rate at the time of purchase will have to be taken into account.

[sovereignsteve]

@ady

Is this the site@

https://www.sigma-verifiers.com/sk/

As it's not in english, can you confirm the lower price figure is ex-vat and this is what you will pay ordering from the UK?

20% vat would be payable on entry to UK?

[ady]

44 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

Is this the site@

https://www.sigma-verifiers.com/sk/

As it's not in english, can you confirm the lower price figure is ex-vat and this is what you will pay ordering from the UK?

20% vat would be payable on entry to UK?

I just googled Zetberg and the first listing was the site I used. When I clicked on it I had a little box appear asking if I wanted translation. Then looked under accessories. The site you have looks to be the same company, but I do not recognize that format.

Yes you will have to pay VAT (20%) but only one it enters the country. 

[ady]

1 hour ago, sovereignsteve said:

Is this the site@

https://www.sigma-verifiers.com/sk/

As it's not in english, can you confirm the lower price figure is ex-vat and this is what you will pay ordering from the UK?

20% vat would be payable on entry to UK?

I  should have made it clear, you do pay the lower price. I payed the higher price and Zetberg refunded me when they realized I was a foreign buyer, refund done before even realized so can not fault them on that. Best to get a reference from the tax office for importing goods in preparation.

[Fadeingstar]

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://zetberg.com

 

[silenceissilver]

On 23/07/2021 at 16:43, Fadeingstar said:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://zetberg.com

 

You can also simply change the language settings by clicking on the flag at the top right.

https://www.sigma-verifiers.com/en/

I have bought mine from the US, about two years ago. At least back then there was no considerable difference in the price with import charges and shipping, compared to the Slovenian provider I also had a look at, at the time. But it was sitting at customs for ages - quite a few weeks but that's a lottery and could also be considerably shorter.

The import charges weren't a dealer breaker for me. You have to pay it before you can pick it up. It even happened to me that I ordered something from Germany post Brexit and so they didn't charge German VAT but they forgot to charge it in the UK as well, so I didn't pay it in any country. (Before Brexit I'd have paid German VAT and no import fees). I wouldn't count on that though and certainly even less so form the US. 

Although I'm very happy with my Sigma Pro and certainly recommend it, there are also competitors which you might also want to have a look at:

https://www.gold-analytix.com/

Edited July 27, 2021 by silenceissilver

[sovereignsteve]

12 hours ago, silenceissilver said:

Although I'm very happy with my Sigma Pro and certainly recommend it, there are also competitors which you might also want to have a look at:

https://www.gold-analytix.com/

Are you aware of any differences/pro and cons between this and the Sigma?

[silenceissilver]

1 hour ago, sovereignsteve said:

Are you aware of any differences/pro and cons between this and the Sigma?

I have got the Sigma pro:

Here you see the pro mini which is mobile (didn't exist yet 2 years ago, unfortunately):

https://www.sigmametalytics.com/mini

And here is the competitor Gold Screen Box (they have further gold testing devices such as density scales as you can see in the first link but only their gold screen box is the counterpart to the Sigma)

https://www.gold-analytix.com/test-devices

And here the original Sigma:

https://www.sigmametalytics.com/original

If you look at all of them, you will see only the pro and the pro mini have a sensor above the pad which means it can measure all the way through the coin, whereas the original Sigma and the gold screen box can only measure so deep (can't remember the exact depth but in any case not through the whole coin).

At the pro and the pro mini (and possibly at the original Sigma, I don't know) you can also put in the weight and then it will display the estimated size (for regular forms - round or rectangle) although personally I have never bothered to do this, instead I compare it to coins I already have.

If I bought it now I'd probably go for the pro mini as it's mobile and measures through the whole coin but I have no big pieces even of silver (2oz max). If you want to test bigger coins or bars you'll need the pro with the external bridge for big pieces (which I don't have).

As you can see the pro has two sensors for different sizes, so I'd double check the pro mini can test everything from a 10 Corona or 1/10oz to a 2oz coin.

[SilverStorm]

On 26/07/2021 at 17:15, silenceissilver said:

Although I'm very happy with my Sigma Pro and certainly recommend it, there are also competitors which you might also want to have a look at:

https://www.gold-analytix.com/

Yes, you are correct.  The gold-analytix also caught my eye, but only after I had bought the Pro Mini.

On 27/07/2021 at 07:46, silenceissilver said:

 

Here you see the pro mini which is mobile (didn't exist yet 2 years ago, unfortunately):

https://www.sigmametalytics.com/mini

And here is the competitor Gold Screen Box (they have further gold testing devices such as density scales as you can see in the first link but only their gold screen box is the counterpart to the Sigma)

https://www.gold-analytix.com/test-devices

And here the original Sigma:

https://www.sigmametalytics.com/original

If you look at all of them, you will see only the pro and the pro mini have a sensor above the pad which means it can measure all the way through the coin, whereas the original Sigma and the gold screen box can only measure so deep (can't remember the exact depth but in any case not through the whole coin).

At the pro and the pro mini (and possibly at the original Sigma, I don't know) you can also put in the weight and then it will display the estimated size (for regular forms - round or rectangle) although personally I have never bothered to do this, instead I compare it to coins I already have.

If I bought it now I'd probably go for the pro mini as it's mobile and measures through the whole coin but I have no big pieces even of silver (2oz max). If you want to test bigger coins or bars you'll need the pro with the external bridge for big pieces (which I don't have).

As you can see the pro has two sensors for different sizes, so I'd double check the pro mini can test everything from a 10 Corona or 1/10oz to a 2oz coin.

I have the Pro Mini, love it.  The only caveat I have with the Pro Mini: the main sensor bar can only measure a maximum sample thickness of 10 mm.  Any thicker, you need to use the wands.  Anyone interested in buying the Pro Mini, please see the attached specifications and know what you may or may not need.   For me, I just picked up the complete set so I'm prepared to test anything that comes my way.  

PMV Pro Mini - Specifications.pdf

[silenceissilver]

3 hours ago, SilverStorm said:

Yes, you are correct.  The gold-analytix also caught my eye, but only after I had bought the Pro Mini.

I have the Pro Mini, love it.  The only caveat I have with the Pro Mini: the main sensor bar can only measure a maximum sample thickness of 10 mm.  Any thicker, you need to use the wands.  Anyone interested in buying the Pro Mini, please see the attached specifications and know what you may or may not need.   For me, I just picked up the complete set so I'm prepared to test anything that comes my way.  

PMV Pro Mini - Specifications.pdf 722.77 kB · 2 downloads

1cm covers all coins up to 2 ounces that I'm aware of.

I have wands too but they don't replace the external bridge for big bars, if you want to measure all the way through. Wands only measure the surface or just below but not considerably.