Speechless

[CollectorNo1]

I think this coin is very rear😄

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395…..

[Mrpound]

415

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415..

Roll up, roll up we have a beauty here…..

435 - it’s a rear-ly bad counterfeit

[pricha]

How strange . Ebay's related sponsored items that show similar items to what you are looking at are all gold plated copies. So they know it's fake themselves .

 

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455…..2 mins to go

[Mrpound]

One more jump?

[Mrpound]

😭

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Ebay at its very very worst.  

[zxtm99]

Sold to an eBay 'newbie' with just 8 feedback. probably get away with it.

[CollectorNo1]

Some is going to be very pee'd off when that comes through the post....😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒

[pricha]

Just now, zxtm99 said:

Sold to an eBay 'newbie' with just 8 feedback. probably get away with it.

could be a shrill bidder. Gone to the next highest ?

 

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1 minute ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Some is going to be very pee'd off when that comes through the post....😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒

Or just have no idea.  And take it to a dealer a year later.

[Hunter87]

eBay is a joke! Im sure they don’t really care as they are making money from the sale. 

[Chorlton]

I won 😁

Now to get it graded and sell for £15,000, thanks for the tip people 🤑

Chinese non PM sovereigns go for big bucks now.

[CollectorNo1]

There is a person on ebay with very good feedback knocking these out by the handful at around £3.50 as Gold plated sovreigns 🙄🙄🙄😠😠😠😠

[Simmoleon]

1 hour ago, Chorlton said:

I won 😁

Now to get it graded and sell for £15,000, thanks for the tip people 🤑

Chinese non PM sovereigns go for big bucks now.

NGC do the ‘Rear of the Year’ label for this rear coin - if you get that designation the coin can fetch up to 70 pence at auction

[pricha]

i went to make a last minute bid on something and it was declined . " we need to validate your account, please ring this number " ?  To be honest i'm quite happy to quit eBay now. I can find cheaper , better value items on the forum and Coin Cabinet auction .

[CollectorNo1]

Ebay now is just awful...saying that yes,you have a wide selection of good and bad items....but when it comes to PM's You have to be careful...very careful and know your stuff and know your sellers....Years ago when I joined Ebay in 1999 I don't think China had realised there was a site to sell their C#@P and fake items...but now we are overwhelmed with C@#P from China....ebay don't care about fakes although they always insist they are doing alot to stop people selling fakes on their site....BS in big buckets.....these Chinese factories that sell thousands of inferior products are money in the bank for Ebay so they will never delete their accounts..give them warnings..delete their items..fake,dangerous items especially electrical S#@T that you plug in and blows up and your going to be lucky if it doesn't send your hand flying across the room...but now and for years....the fake Gold n Silver Britannia's/ASE's,Pandas,Kooks etc are flooding Ebay more and more....for any newbies....Dont buy PM's from Ebay unless its from a reputable dealer with a very high feedback...even then its a gamble....Buy from the TSF or Bullion dealers here in the UK...and if your not sure..Google.. ask questions on here....but if you buy from Ebay and I'm talking Gold n Silver PM's....remember you might not receive what you was expecting....over n out..🙂🙂

[Britannia47]

What's all the fuss about?!  It's difficult to have any sympathy with anyone who believes this is a real sovereign, as no attempt has been made to make it look real, IMO. However, the obverse image of Queen Victoria with the long nose is remarkably similar to  Marsh 360/361; the Sydney 1855/56 'Australia' sovereign engraved by James Wyon. This design was pretty awful as well, and 'failed to meet with approval'  In 1857 it was redesigned by James' cousin Leonard Wyon. O.K. there's a bit of sour grapes here as I don't have one in my collection! 

Not sure I blame eBay entirely for this one.

[pricha]

7 hours ago, Britannia47 said:

What's all the fuss about?!  It's difficult to have any sympathy with anyone who believes this is a real sovereign, as no attempt has been made to make it look real, IMO. However, the obverse image of Queen Victoria with the long nose is remarkably similar to  Marsh 360/361; the Sydney 1855/56 'Australia' sovereign engraved by James Wyon. This design was pretty awful as well, and 'failed to meet with approval'  In 1857 it was redesigned by James' cousin Leonard Wyon. O.K. there's a bit of sour grapes here as I don't have one in my collection! 

Not sure I blame eBay entirely for this one.

I agree any buyer who was fooled by that deserves to lose money as it was blatant . On the other hand at least a dozen people from the forum reported the item a fake and what happened ? Nothing. Now that can't be excused .

[VelociteeSteel]

15 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

In my opinion, it would absolutely be the right thing to do, but it is almost certainly in breach of ebay's rules, T&C's etc.

"Thou shall not cause ebay to lose any listing or other fees"

Apart from that, we are probably talking about proberbial water off a duck's back. Unless ebay bosses are total morons, they must be all too well aware that ebay is probably the world's biggest market for fraudulent or stolen items.

Do I sound cynical? No, just experienced and pragmatic.

The OP said "Speechless". I am not in the slightest surprised. 🙂

Agree totally except Alibaba should be considered the world's biggest market for fake goods...........these then end up on Ebay.

[zxtm99]

3 hours ago, pricha said:

I agree any buyer who was fooled by that deserves to lose money as it was blatant . On the other hand at least a dozen people from the forum reported the item a fake and what happened ? Nothing. Now that can't be excused .

This guy here is getting very frustrated by eBay's attitude. As he puts it, you can list fake items as real, and eBay is totally happy with that. However if you list a fake item as fake, they pull it down!

1oz Solid Silver Scottsdale Bar, Real Or Fake Please Read Full Description.

[LawrenceChard]

2 hours ago, VelociteeSteel said:

Agree totally except Alibaba should be considered the world's biggest market for fake goods...........these then end up on Ebay.

You are probably right, and I considered saying that they shared those honours, but I was trying to keep it brief.

[CollectorNo1]

At the end of the day I don't like seeing anyone one getting ripped off!!! And before you ask..."what did you do to help" I did like others on here and  reported it to Ebay...knowing they probably wouldn't do anything,which they didn't...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄