Queens beasts set

[NewCoins]

The status of my returned set in closed orders seems to have changed to a -1 quantity and - cost.

That would seem like it's going to be refunded, or is that standard ?

 

 

Edited July 6, 2021 by NewCoins

[Alz111]

I can see the royal mint has also released the bullion version and they’ve added a 1 kilo version also..

I wonder how big the kilo version would be and would it be a good investment? 

[SilverJacks]

7 hours ago, NewCoins said:

The status of my returned set in closed orders seems to have changed to a -1 quantity and - cost.

That would seem like it's going to be refunded, or is that standard ?

 

 

Did you find any further info on this?

[NewCoins]

16 minutes ago, SilverJacks said:

Did you find any further info on this?

No. I think its just going to be a waiting game until either the money turns up in my account or a set arrives. I think the former.

I might call them actually

[SilverJacks]

It does look like a refund doesn't it 🥺

If they aren't replacing, would you consider your set back? That could still be possible if you call them. I have fingers crossed for you either way 

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[NewCoins]

Thanks.

Apparently they are refunding it and sending another set.

I don't believe that for one second though. I think the guy is getting confused with something else.

Edited July 6, 2021 by NewCoins

[SilverJacks]

4 minutes ago, NewCoins said:

they are refunding it and sending another set

Which one?

 

[NewCoins]

6 minutes ago, SilverJacks said:

Which one?

 

2oz silver. But like I said. He's getting mixed up as I had two orders on release day, one from customer services which I told him to cancel when the website started working. 

Thats why I think, he thinks, its been refunded and have sent another. At least that's my view.

[SilverJacks]

11 minutes ago, NewCoins said:

2oz silver. But like I said. He's getting mixed up as I had two orders on release day, one from customer services which I told him to cancel when the website started working. 

Thats why I think, he thinks, its been refunded and have sent another. At least that's my view.

Ahh I see. So that looks hopeful. 

I'm about to return the mini set if I can get round to it today, I'll post it on "today I returned"

[NewCoins]

1 minute ago, SilverJacks said:

Ahh I see. So that looks hopeful. 

I'm about to return the mini set if I can get round to it today, I'll post it on "today I returned"

I don't think its hopeful.

I think customer services are clueless 😂

[NewCoins]

Sorry. I have had one of those days.

It looks like I have an open order now for a set so it sounds like what he said was true.

Apologies Royal Mint. Looks like I am getting another set.

[Frenchie]

One more disappointment here with my 2oz silver set received today, really beautiful coins with nice...milk spots.
I have also receive the 1/4oz silver set and everything seems ok . I have to say that I also love these little reverse proof, maybe even more than the 2oz set (maybe because I have been used to see the "standard" proof)

Very elegant coins, I can think that they will gain value over time 

[NewCoins]

Sorry to hear that.

I am hoping that there was a guy with a beard, socks and white sandals examining the coins I sent back, and carefully selecting a replacement set of adequate quality using his years of experience whilst scratching his beard a few times (away from the coins). His appariasial of coin quality is famous in the Royal Mint and nationally. He travels regularly doing conferences on coin quality and appraisal.

The reality is, a spotty teenager took the two returns that came in this morning, swapped them over and sent them back out.

Edited July 6, 2021 by NewCoins

[Frenchie]

1 hour ago, NewCoins said:

Sorry to hear that.

I am hoping that there was a guy with a beard, socks and white sandals examining the coins I sent back, and carefully selecting a replacement set of adequate quality using his years of experience whilst scratching his beard a few times (away from the coins). His appariasial of coin quality is famous in the Royal Mint and nationally. He travels regularly doing conferences on coin quality and appraisal.

The reality is, a spotty teenager took the two returns that came in this morning, swapped them over the sent them back out.

Keep us informed about the RM decision to restrike or not. Have you tried to call someone at the RM ?

I have a second set coming probably tomorrow, may be I will be more lucky ? (but I don't count on it)

I am going to send back of course

[NewCoins]

14 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

Keep us informed about the RM decision to restrike or not. Have you tried to call someone at the RM ?

I have a second set coming probably tomorrow, may be I will be more lucky ? (but I don't count on it)

I am going to send back of course

They haven't mentioned restriking at all today. Only the customer service guy said it might be a possibility on Friday before I returned.

If my replacement turns up in the next couple of days, I reckon its another return or they kept some back.

Edited July 6, 2021 by NewCoins

[LawrenceChard]

Queen's Beasts Silver Proof Set Photos:

Black Bull with Spots

White Greyhound with Spots

Griffin with Globs

Unicorn with Ulcers

Falcon with Flashes

Five substandard out of 5 so far, balance to follow...

[Shell]

I doubt they will do re-strikes, this will ensure a lower than declared mintage. And what happens to the dies?

[kimchi]

18 minutes ago, Shell said:

I doubt they will do re-strikes, this will ensure a lower than declared mintage. And what happens to the dies?

They will still have the dies, if they don't do restrikes the mintage will be tiny - they will look very stupid and inept, and have a LOT of very angry customers and bad press imvho.

[CollectorNo1]

I cannot believe those photos....absolutely appauling 🥺 The only way the RM will change and improve (Dramatically)...as if everyone boycotted them and stopped buying their proof coins and sets...but that will NEVER happen..so I'm afraid its "ya pay your money and take ya choice" getting coins that are what we all expect (proof meaning proof) or put up with receiving inferior PM's...

 

[kimchi]

47 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

Queen's Beasts Silver Proof Set Photos:

Black Bull with Spots

White Greyhound with Spots

Griffin with Globs

Unicorn with Ulcers

Falcon with Flashes

Five substandard out of 5 so far, balance to follow...

Ah you got the good ones, I always knew they favoured the dealers...

[CollectorNo1]

Good ones???????????????

[AndrewSL76]

Anyone returning their coins and having issues should direct the Royal Mint to their own website where they confirm:

“What are Proof coins?

Proof coins are the highest quality commemorative coins. Their sharpness, detail and finish are unrivalled, making them perfect for collectors looking for highest levels of craftsmanship and detail.

The dies used to strike Proof coins are hand-finished to ensure that all imperfections are removed. Blanks are fed into the coin press by hand before being struck up to six times, at a lower speed and with less pressure than other finishes, to preserve the finer details of the design.

After striking, each coin is inspected for imperfections. The dies are cleaned with air between each coin to ensure that no marks or imperfections are caused during striking.

As a result of this extra care and attention, no more than 50 Proof coins can be struck within an hour. Proof dies are also regularly reworked to maintain the quality of the finish. Each Proof die may only strike a few hundred coins before it has to be repolished.”

https://www.royalmint.com/discover/coin-collecting/striking-standards/

[Rll1288]

21 minutes ago, AndrewSL76 said:

Anyone returning their coins and having issues should direct the Royal Mint to their own website where they confirm:

“What are Proof coins?

Proof coins are the highest quality commemorative coins. Their sharpness, detail and finish are unrivalled, making them perfect for collectors looking for highest levels of craftsmanship and detail.

The dies used to strike Proof coins are hand-finished to ensure that all imperfections are removed. Blanks are fed into the coin press by hand before being struck up to six times, at a lower speed and with less pressure than other finishes, to preserve the finer details of the design.

After striking, each coin is inspected for imperfections. The dies are cleaned with air between each coin to ensure that no marks or imperfections are caused during striking.

As a result of this extra care and attention, no more than 50 Proof coins can be struck within an hour. Proof dies are also regularly reworked to maintain the quality of the finish. Each Proof die may only strike a few hundred coins before it has to be repolished.”

https://www.royalmint.com/discover/coin-collecting/striking-standards/

Trouble is... although they state "no marks or imperfections are caused during striking"...  They have indicated that 68 and above is acceptable for the products as a whole when sending out to clients 🙂  To me on low mintage, high value items they need to look at the process post striking

[AndrewSL76]

4 minutes ago, Rll1288 said:

Trouble is... although they state "no marks or imperfections are caused during striking"...  They have indicated that 68 and above is acceptable for the products as a whole when sending out to clients 🙂  To me on low mintage, high value items they need to look at the process post striking

Sorry but this is absolute bullsh*t (their position, not your comment!) They have to be consistent. They cannot publish that section about striking standards and then say ‘oh the dust, milk spots are fine because it’s a 68’. Sorry, but they either follow their published standards or they don’t. If they don’t, then they should rewrite them accordingly to confirm that you may get a substandard coin when buying a new proof. 

[Rll1288]

5 minutes ago, AndrewSL76 said:

Sorry but this is absolute bullsh*t (their position, not your comment!) They have to be consistent. They cannot publish that section about striking standards and then say ‘oh the dust, milk spots are fine because it’s a 68’. Sorry, but they either follow their published standards or they don’t. If they don’t, then they should rewrite them accordingly to confirm that you may get a substandard coin when buying a new proof. 

I totally agree..... It really irks me that they don't see the post striking process as important and as we have seen (BYBs box for the 2oz QB's) items are clearly getting issues from the striking to the packaging and beyond.

 

It would be funny if they wrote "struck to the highest quality, well sometimes, and care taken to ensure they reach the customer in the same way, sometimes, with imperfections quality controlled for a better experience, sometimes" .. hahah

Edited July 7, 2021 by Rll1288