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Interesting ‘Type Set’ Collections


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Nice idea, both for the maundy type set and the proof sovereign type set.

Not quite in the same league, but I have a type set of sorts, covering circulating currency shillings from Charles II to Elizabeth II.  Not quite one of every obverse and reverse design for every monarch (the 1663-1787 period has lots of expensive variations...), but not too far off.  

The coins I have are: 

1676 Charles II, 1685 James II, 1692 William & Mary, 1700 William III, 1703 Anne (VIGO silver), 1708 Anne, 1723 George I (SSC), 1739 George II, 1745 George II (LIMA silver), 1758 George II, 1787 George III, 1816 George III, 1821 George IV, 1824 George IV, 1829 George IV, 1834 William IV, 1838 Victoria, 1842 Victoria, 1874 Victoria, 1883 Victoria, 1887 Victoria, 1889 Victoria, 1893 Victoria, 1900 Victoria, 1905 Edward VII, 1910 Edward VII, 1916 George V, 1926 George V, 1936 George VI, 1937 George VI (English and Scottish), 1947 George VI (English and Scottish), 1949 George VI (English and Scottish), 1953 Elizabeth II (English and Scottish), 1954 Elizabeth II (English and Scottish), 1959 Elizabeth II (Scottish).

Value-wise they range from about £1 to about £400.  Some are very high grade (GEF or better) but most aren't.

I also have sort-of type sets of florins from 1849 to 1967 and halfcrowns from 1817 to 1967.

Regarding maundy - I only have one set, 1933.  If you are interested in UK predecimal coins, you will appreciate the appeal of owning a genuine 1933 penny 😁

 

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4 hours ago, Stuntman said:

Nice idea, both for the maundy type set and the proof sovereign type set.

Not quite in the same league, but I have a type set of sorts, covering circulating currency shillings from Charles II to Elizabeth II.  Not quite one of every obverse and reverse design for every monarch (the 1663-1787 period has lots of expensive variations...), but not too far off.  

The coins I have are: 

1676 Charles II, 1685 James II, 1692 William & Mary, 1700 William III, 1703 Anne (VIGO silver), 1708 Anne, 1723 George I (SSC), 1739 George II, 1745 George II (LIMA silver), 1758 George II, 1787 George III, 1816 George III, 1821 George IV, 1824 George IV, 1829 George IV, 1834 William IV, 1838 Victoria, 1842 Victoria, 1874 Victoria, 1883 Victoria, 1887 Victoria, 1889 Victoria, 1893 Victoria, 1900 Victoria, 1905 Edward VII, 1910 Edward VII, 1916 George V, 1926 George V, 1936 George VI, 1937 George VI (English and Scottish), 1947 George VI (English and Scottish), 1949 George VI (English and Scottish), 1953 Elizabeth II (English and Scottish), 1954 Elizabeth II (English and Scottish), 1959 Elizabeth II (Scottish).

Value-wise they range from about £1 to about £400.  Some are very high grade (GEF or better) but most aren't.

I also have sort-of type sets of florins from 1849 to 1967 and halfcrowns from 1817 to 1967.

Regarding maundy - I only have one set, 1933.  If you are interested in UK predecimal coins, you will appreciate the appeal of owning a genuine 1933 penny 😁

 

Excellent work @Stuntman.  So much history in that Shilling Type Set you have.   The designs on the reverse of the Shillings and Florins are fantastic, particularly the early ones so intricate, distinguished and all round 'proper' money 👍

Thanks for sharing 😀

Any chance of a photo or two of the early Sixpence & Florins?

I only have a handful of Sixpences, these proof ones are nice.  And one of my absolute favourite coins that I own is the 1911 Florin:

 

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You know it's funny you should ask, I was thinking a few weeks ago about having a silver penny from every reign from Alfred the Great through to Elizabeth II. I reckon that would be pretty cool. But I just can't quite bring myself to pay such a premium on such tiny coins (the Maundy Pennies specifically). So I shelved that idea.

I also keep thinking about florins in tip top grade, an example of each type. I love florins.

Or a king Stephen type set.

I'd also love to just throw myself into collecting either Charles II or George II young head coinage in the highest grades possible, or an uncirculated date set of silver denominations from the 1816-1859 time frame.

As you can see, I struggle with commitment!

Sadly I can't afford to do any of those things! But we can dream, can't we?

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I dont know if this would count as a type set as such, or whether there is a proper name, but I have thought about maybe concentrating on the short reign of Edward VII. 1901-1910 should be reasonably easy/affordable to find 'one of everything's for each year, including sovereign and halfs. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't done any research, but I like the idea of having this is a long term project. Any thoughts appreciated.

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12 minutes ago, TheShinyStuff said:

I dont know if this would count as a type set as such, or whether there is a proper name, but I have thought about maybe concentrating on the short reign of Edward VII. 1901-1910 should be reasonably easy/affordable to find 'one of everything's for each year, including sovereign and halfs. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't done any research, but I like the idea of having this is a long term project. Any thoughts appreciated.

Ha! I thought about that too, or William IV for the same reason, short reign. I'd obviously not bother with the gold for William IV, quite expensive 

Edward VII coinage is particularly beautiful in my eyes, the shillings, florins and half crowns are great designs.

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1 hour ago, SidS said:

You know it's funny you should ask, I was thinking a few weeks ago about having a silver penny from every reign from Alfred the Great through to Elizabeth II. I reckon that would be pretty cool. But I just can't quite bring myself to pay such a premium on such tiny coins (the Maundy Pennies specifically). So I shelved that idea.

I also keep thinking about florins in tip top grade, an example of each type. I love florins.

Or a king Stephen type set.

I'd also love to just throw myself into collecting either Charles II or George II young head coinage in the highest grades possible, or an uncirculated date set of silver denominations from the 1816-1859 time frame.

As you can see, I struggle with commitment!

Sadly I can't afford to do any of those things! But we can dream, can't we?

I think you have some interesting ideas here, and with some imagination and tenacity, I think you could build a nice collection of the Silver Pennies over time.

I guess the premise I am putting forward here, is that whatever’Type Set’ goal one sets for oneself, it’s a personal endeavor, and important not to put pressure on oneself- but what I have found is that setting a goal this way allows me that extra bit of incentive to focus and avoid temptation to spend elsewhere and keep investing at the forefront- and the results are extremely satisfying. 

I was well aware before I set my Maundy goal, that the 1953 Maundy set was going to be a challenge- I’ve seen 4 or 5 sets of 1953 Maundy come up for sale at dealers or auction  in the last several months at auction all making between £980 and £1100.  I will buy this set eventually, but when these opportunities have arisen I haven’t had the funds available.  
 

It could be argued that spending £1k on around 8 grams of Silver is foolhardy, and I acknowledge buying in at less would be beneficial, but this is where the market is- and the 1953 set is consistently making this money- I think there are far greater investment risks- a 2oz Silver coin struck a few weeks ago making thousands is a far, far greater risk! 

31 minutes ago, SidS said:

I thought about that too, or William IV for the same reason, short reign. I'd obviously not bother with the gold for William IV, quite expensive 

Agreed on the William IV Gold- for my Type Set I might well have to compromise on the 1831 first year for William and slot in another of the year dates due to financial constraints and not wishing to compromise in terms of detail/ condition of the coin.   I’ll likely be in the same position with the 1838 Victoria, although it would be ideal to own the 1838, it would be more satisfying to own a nice condition example of an early YH Sovereign than a rough looking 1838 for 5 times more cash.

55 minutes ago, TheShinyStuff said:

I dont know if this would count as a type set as such, or whether there is a proper name, but I have thought about maybe concentrating on the short reign of Edward VII. 1901-1910 should be reasonably easy/affordable to find 'one of everything's for each year, including sovereign and halfs. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't done any research, but I like the idea of having this is a long term project. Any thoughts appreciated.

I think the one of everything  Edward Set would be marvelous- or concentrating on Sovereigns or Half Sovereigns or Silver coinage would be relatively achievable- although there’s a few expensive year dates.

The Matte Proof Short set of Gold and Silver is a fantastic Set, grab a nice raw set whilst you can- these Sets are being broken up and plundered daily for the Gold and Silver to be sent for grading.  Wholesale vandalism prevails - there were only 7,057 of these Short Sets issued- bet there’s way, way less than half intact today. 

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@richatthecroft  - here you go.  Here are some photos of the shillings and florins.

These are my earliest 9 shillings - 1676, 1685, 1692, 1700, 1703 (Vigo silver), 1708, 1723 (South Sea Company silver), 1739 (Roses, West of England silver), 1745 (Lima silver).

And then 9 of the florins - 1849, 1856, 1872, 1887, 1900, 1905, 1916, 1932, 1943.  A couple of rare ones in there.  

 

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And here are some photos of some of the halfcrowns.

1817, 1818, 1821 (with the heavier garnishing on reverse, predecimal coin nerds...), 1823, 1828, 1829, 1835, 1837 and 1885

and then

1887, 1900, 1903, 1910, 1915, 1930.

A good few rarities in there as well.

As you'll see, the coins are in a variety of grades, but each of them has a story to tell and I love being the custodian of them for the time being.

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17 hours ago, Stuntman said:

And here are some photos of some of the halfcrowns.

1817, 1818, 1821 (with the heavier garnishing on reverse, predecimal coin nerds...), 1823, 1828, 1829, 1835, 1837 and 1885

and then

1887, 1900, 1903, 1910, 1915, 1930.

A good few rarities in there as well.

As you'll see, the coins are in a variety of grades, but each of them has a story to tell and I love being the custodian of them for the time being.

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Fantastic collections @Stuntman 👍 Thanks for sharing. 😃

  I particularly like the Half Crowns the 1821 is a beauty! I hope to acquire some nice ones too.

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Some gorgeous coins there mate!

I will admit, I love 'em all.

EarlyMilled coins are my weakness, I like the uniformity of design, well over a century with little change.

I did collect Early Milled sixpences many years ago and I built a decent date set, but then sold them as I needed the money at the time.

I might go in on shillings this time instead.

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One other thing I just remembered.

Have you ever noticed that the Edward VII and George V half crown reverses are more different than they at first appear?

At first glance it seems the beaded circle is the major difference, in fact it's only one difference. The real notable thing is that the George V reverse is ever so slightly concave, whereas the Edward one is flat. So the George V coins wear much better overall.

Love the William IV mantle reverse, so unique.

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Cheers chaps.

The 1821 is probably my favourite of the halfcrowns as well, probably the last one I would part with and that's nothing to do with value, just emotional appeal.  I love the William IV mantle reverse too, and the 1837 is probably the second-last halfcrown I'd let go.

Of those florins, the 1900 and 1932 are probably the last two I would part with, and probably the 1856 in there too.  I actually bought the 1900 from a coin dealer in New Zealand and I feel that I have brought it 'back home' after its grand travels!

Of those shillings - there is so much history in there.  The James II coin of 1685 is probably the most valuable, but I'd probably keep the 1723 SSC coin until last, which actually cost me the second-least of those 9 to buy! 

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